The Date - What should I have done here

[CaConfused]

Met at winebar at 8.

She is showing neutral to positive signals. Either leaning to me or looking straight ahead (we're at a bar, with windows outside.)

She shows me a picture of her passed out on a boat in a bikini with her ass out.. hhmm.

We talk about 50 shades, her one time she had a one-night stand, that she teaches pole dancing.

10pm we roll to a bar.

She is more positive.

I ask to smell her hair. Its ok.

I have a bit of a cough. I explain its non contagious winter asthma.

She says no biggie, she's a nanny, I could sneeze in her throat, she wouldnt get sick. I said dont worry its not contagious.

Back to positive body language. I take a line I learned here "From 1-10 how good of a kisser are you."

SHE REPLIES "I don't kiss on the first date, it's too intimate.'

****. I reply "I didnt say I was going to kiss you. I wanted the score"

She says 7.

So yeah we close the bar down at 1, I walk her to garage. Hug her. She says "have fun in Vegas!" (im going tomorrow. I tell her "Oh I don't need you to say that to have fun in Vegas.."

So --- did I handle this OK to seed a Second Date?

I do think it's weird about the kiss thing, given that even though she's a habitual relationship girl, she wouldn't kiss. MAYBE it's the cough?

On the way home I texted her "Home ok?"

She replied back "Yep. Thanks "

Thoughts here?

 

[pdx1138]

probably shouldn't have asked the kiss thing in hindsight with her IL fluctuating.
I've made similar mistakes and now never ask anything like that, if the opportunity comes
I just take it.

would definitely not have texted her "home ok"

I'd say your chances are 50/50 at this point. You did well on the reply to her not kissing on first date.

 

[marmel75]

1) never ask to do anything, just do it.

2) the kiss thing was likely a sh!t test to see if you were a b!itch or would still go for it...you were a b!itch

3) stop making a big deal out of things and apologizing...its a cough, big deal

4) don't text girls to see if they made it home

Don't like ur chances with this one...if you want to kiss her then kiss her, fvck what she says...she would probably love it...women set boundaries, men push boundaries...you didn't push boundaries, therefore she likely sees you as not being a man...

Just my two cents, could be wrong

 

[CaConfused]

1) never ask to do anything, just do it.

2) the kiss thing was likely a sh!t test to see if you were a b!itch or would still go for it...you were a b!itch

3) stop making a big deal out of things and apologizing...its a cough, big deal

4) don't text girls to see if they made it home

Don't like ur chances with this one...if you want to kiss her then kiss her, fvck what she says...she would probably love it...women set boundaries, men push boundaries...you didn't push boundaries, therefore she likely sees you as not being a man...

Just my two cents, could be wrong

LOL one post for 'good for backing off', another 'for kiss her'.

 

[WhitePimp]

I ask to smell her hair. Its ok.

Da fvck?

Yeah, never ask to do anything. It's hard to tell based on only your text, but I've never had a second date with a chick that I didn't at least make out with on the first date. I've found that the only way to consistently get second dates nowadays is to push hard for the first bang on the first date...girls have too many options nowadays to wait. Good luck though, go nuts in Vegas and come back acting like a boss.

 

[Renegade357]

That's the first time you went out with this girl? Seems like a long first date to me. I mean it wasn't perfect but I'd say you probably handled it pretty well. Call her back and ask out again next week.

 

[dap]

Kind of a lukewarm date. A kiss means success. The only other two outcomes are disaster or "meh"<-- where you're at. She def wants you to be interested if she is showing you pictures of her in a bikini, talking about pole dancing, etc. But not enough interest to kiss. So, a 2nd date could be in the cards. The way to ease into a kiss is with kino, not with words (atleast not without some kino too). I agree with the others that the txt at the end of the night was probs a bad idea. Also, don't apoligize for things (esp stupid **** like a cough).

 

[Mike32ct]

No need to ask to kiss. Just brush her hair aside with your fingertips and go for it. I never got into the "smell her" type thing. Some bizarre D a v I d D tip lol.

Her telling you about a ONS is a negative too. They don't usually talk about F-ing other guys when they want you.

It's going to be difficult to re-start things with her after your trip. You can try, but don't get your hopes up. Whenever I had a first date, THEN a business trip or vacation, my date went cold and fell off the map. It breaks whatever momentum I had.

Just get laid in Vegas and roll the dice (pun intended) with her when you get back. Nothing to lose.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

My thoughts:

Not all girls who don't kiss on first dates have low interest; some genuinely like to wait because (insert story about the way they were raised).

At the same time, i have yet to go beyond 3 dates or have a long relationship with a girl i haven't kissed by the 2nd date.

At this point, you don't really know. The best way to gauge it: wait til u get back from Vegas to contact her; when you do contact her, call, don't text, and ask her out for a second date. If she says yes, take her out again and make a move; if she gives you an excuse without a counter-offer (i.e. NO in woman speak), throw the number away and start on another chick. Simple stuff.

 

[Cremasta]

She says no biggie, she's a nanny, I could sneeze in her throat, she wouldnt get sick.

"Yeah? What else could I do in there?"

 

[marmel75]

No need to ask to kiss. Just brush her hair aside with your fingertips and go for it. I never got into the "smell her" type thing. Some bizarre D a v I d D tip lol.

Her telling you about a ONS is a negative too. They don't usually talk about F-ing other guys when they want you.

It's going to be difficult to re-start things with her after your trip. You can try, but don't get your hopes up. Whenever I had a first date, THEN a business trip or vacation, my date went cold and fell off the map. It breaks whatever momentum I had.

Just get laid in Vegas and roll the dice (pun intended) with her when you get back. Nothing to lose.

Nothing bizarre about smelling at all...it stimulates and excites her subconsciously....in the animal kingdom all males smell the female before mating(smells to see if they are ready for sex), and while we may have intelligence, we are still animals and it still has the same effect...