The dangers and potential destructiveness of anti-feminism

[iveyleeger]

If you read some psychology you'd learn a lot more about him, and yourself.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by iveyleeger
If you read some psychology you'd learn a lot more about him, and yourself.

Actually, I've studied psychology as a hobby for the last 25 years. He and I know each other and ourselves extremely well.

 

[iveyleeger]

Actually, I've studied psychology as a hobby for the last 25 years.

since you were 14?

 

[DJ_in_making]

Originally posted by iveyleeger
since you were 14?

OWND!

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by iveyleeger
since you were 14?

Yup...I took Psychology as a freshman in high school and loved it so much it became a hobby to study it on my own.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by DJ_in_making
OWND!

Erm...there are a lot of people who study things they aren't required to study when they are teenagers. Some people just have a hunger for knowledge.

 

[DJ_in_making]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Erm...there are a lot of people who study things they aren't required to study when they are teenagers. Some people just have a hunger for knowledge.

yes, I see that's y u're at a male seduction site expanding your knowledge on picking up chicks

 

[iveyleeger]

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by DJ_in_making
yes, I see that's y u're at a male seduction site expanding your knowledge on picking up chicks

You're off topic and trying to incite a flame war. Please stick to the topic or go away.

Thanks in advance!

 

[OneArmDeeJay]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
As someone fully aware of how damaging the feminist movement has been on society, and men in particular, I am seeing a very disturbing trend on this forum. I am making this post not to offend or upset anyone...but in hopes of helping the men here realize the dangers of anti-feminism.

I once was the administrator of a very popular and busy gender issues forum. I started the forum because I noticed that everywhere these forums existed, men were routinely banned whenever the tried to post how they felt. That made me very angry so I made a place where men would not be banned, where feminists and men were able to confront each other and say whatever was on their mind. I did not censor and the only rules were no death threats, posting of illegal material or posting personal information.

What I noticed is that both men and women who get embroiled in this battle too deeply end up on the road to self destruction and madness. It's not pretty. The men who allowed themselves to get too wrapped up became much like the radical feminists they claimed to despise so. The behavior and attitudes were exactly the same. It was very, very ugly.

It is good for men to be aware of how feminism affects them. It is not good for them to build their life around looking for any little hint of feminism in every little part of their life.

I'm seeing a lot of cases where men on here are looking for feminism in everything. These guys are very negative in their posts and they seem pretty miserable.

Just like most men find feminists to be unappealing...women also find their male counterparts to be just as unappealing. It's no fun being around someone who is always looking for an excuse or reason to feel like a victim.

This is intended as a warning to those of you who are just learning about how feminism affects men in society. Take care not to cross the line between awareness and obsession. You do NOT want to become that which you dislike.

I agree with this post. I too have notice that there is WAY to much negativity in peoples post. I also notice that those who use feminism as an escape goat corrupt the new ones that come to this board looking for answers and help. The new ones start to get a taint image and then soon their post will reflect the same negativity of their predecessor.

We say DJ’s aren’t negative that it’s bad and unhealthy for you. That we should look for the positive and stop blaming others. Then why do so many people say and do other wise?
Don’t be a Hypocrite.

 

[DJ_in_making]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
You're off topic and trying to incite a flame war. Please stick to the topic or go away.

Thanks in advance!

I learn it from the best. J/k I had my fun for 2day, I'll let u be.

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: Re: The dangers and potential destructiveness of anti-feminism

Originally posted by OneArmDeeJay
I agree with this post. I too have notice that there is WAY to much negativity in peoples post. I also notice that those who use feminism as an escape goat corrupt the new ones that come to this board looking for answers and help. The new ones start to get a taint image and then soon their post will reflect the same negativity of their predecessor.

We say DJ’s aren’t negative that it’s bad and unhealthy for you. That we should look for the positive and stop blaming others. Then why do so many people say and do other wise?
Don’t be a Hypocrite.

Yes, this is becoming a very unfortunate legacy being passed on from "generation" of newbies to "generation"...and it's really leading guys in the wrong direction...a direction that is only going to hurt them in the long run.

 

[Flogger]

Originally posted by Spirit Fingers
Lots of guys who aren't getting laid and can't get a girlfriend use all this anti-feminist stuff to mask their frustration, just as ugly women use feminism to mask theirs. It doesn't work, and it's very transparent.

-Dan

Nicely put.

 

[iveyleeger]

Wyld, what exactly *are* you doing on the board?

Obviously you aren't here to learn anything as the rest of us are. When giving the chance, you are convinced you already know everything (see above). So are you just here to dispense all your psychological wisdom from freshman year of H.S., or what?

This is not a flame. But all I see is a lot of you talking about your past, getting into flame wars with everyone, telling guys what they can or can't do, giving bad advice, and labeling men as bitter woman haters when they call you on it. I don't see the value in all that. It just looks like you're always stirring the pot. But let me guess, I'm bitter too, right?

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by iveyleeger
Wyld, what exactly *are* you doing on the board?

Obviously you aren't here to learn anything as the rest of us are. When giving the chance, you are convinced you already know everything (see above). So are you just here to dispense all your psychological wisdom from freshman year of H.S., or what?

This is not a flame. But all I see is a lot of you talking about your past, getting into flame wars with everyone, telling guys what they can or can't do, giving bad advice, and labeling men as bitter woman haters when they call you on it. I don't see the value in all that. It just looks like you're always stirring the pot. But let me guess, I'm bitter too, right?

I actually give a lot of very good input and advice, and I offer a perspective that no one else who posts here can really offer. I'm a logical thinking woman who isn't afraid to be blunt and honest...even if it isn't popular. A lot of what you have seen of me lately is a product of the atmosphere I'm talking about in this thread. It's all interconnected.

I don't think all the guys on here are woman haters or bitter...if they really were they wouldn't even be on here talking about women because they'd be on some feminist site trolling the forums there instead. I DO think that there are too many misguided and confused guys who are listening to the wrong people. The negativity is like the plague...it spreads and destroys. Yes, there are a few guys on here who have allowed their frustration and anger to suck them into some very unhealthy radical thinking about women and they ARE looking to make everything feminism's fault.

As I said, I'm an antifeminist...but when I see the most respected and read poster on this forum going off on a rant trying to make the popularity of the Harry Potter series evil, destructive and deeply intertwined with feminism...I know it's gone too damn far.

This has nothing to do with psychology...and I quickly moved well beyond the freshman HS level of reading material. My main interest happens to be Criminal and Forensic Psychology, which really doesn't fit in here anyhow. The snide remark really wasn't necessary. I'm trying to keep this on the right track, as a serious and important discussion that really DOES need to be had. Please allow me to do that.

 

[OneArmDeeJay]

Originally posted by iveyleeger
Wyld, what exactly *are* you doing on the board?

Obviously you aren't here to learn anything as the rest of us are. When giving the chance, you are convinced you already know everything (see above). So are you just here to dispense all your psychological wisdom from freshman year of H.S., or what?

This is not a flame. But all I see is a lot of you talking about your past, getting into flame wars with everyone, telling guys what they can or can't do, giving bad advice, and labeling men as bitter woman haters when they call you on it. I don't see the value in all that. It just looks like you're always stirring the pot. But let me guess, I'm bitter too, right?

I should ask you the same thing. What exactly are you doing on the board? Are you here to learn, give insight, share knowledge, and be positive? Or are you here to be destructive, argumentative, disruptive, and negative?

Her post wasn't bringing down anyone in particular. Nor was she trying to start or get into flame wars. This post was just in observation. And again your proving a point that there is way to much negativity on this board. I think if you would just stop, read the post, think, read the post again, think, you will understand where she is coming from. And contribute to this post/site by staying on topic and stop criticizing others.

Man, so many people do this to others who have an idea or observation. These people are so quick to reply and shooting the poster down with out really thinking of what the poster is trying to say. Those are the ones that start the flame wars and bring the site down.

 

[frivolousz21]

good post.


too bad most of the new guys here wont listen.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
good post.


too bad most of the new guys here wont listen.

Thanks...if even one guy reads the post and avoids being sucked into the negativity it will be a good thing.

 

[ketostix]

Wyldfire for real you're always defending poor female behavior, you're pro-female, and you sure seem like feminist. All you're really saying in this thread is for guys to roll over and take whatever feminist- minded females pitch. Any idiot knows negativity and anger is usually ineffective at getting what a person wants and can be self-destructive.

Any negativity on the site regarding females is not the cause it's the effect...Most guys just want a decent looking girl to treat him good, some just want to get a little action regularly without having to expend all their free time and go through endless games. Why else would you frame it as the "pontential destructiveness of anti-feminism" and bring up that debate, but for attention and to defend feminist? I haven't seen anyone talking about the topic of feminism lately till you brought it up.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by ketostix
Wyldfire for real you're always defending poor female behavior, you're pro-female, and you sure seem like feminist. All you're really saying in this thread is for guys to roll over and take whatever feminist- minded females pitch. Any idiot knows negativity and anger is usually ineffective at getting what a person wants and can be self-destructive.

Any negativity on the site regarding females is not the cause it's the effect...Most guys just want a decent looking girl to treat him good, some just want to get a little action regularly without having to expend all their free time and go through endless games. Why else would you frame it as the "pontential destructiveness of anti-feminism" and bring up that debate, but for attention and to defend feminist? I haven't seen anyone talking about the topic of feminism lately till you brought it up.

Ketostix, nowhere in this thread am I defending women or anyone. I am simply saying that many of the guys on this site have gotten so embroiled with "fighting feminism" that they've gotten somewhat obsessed. When a man crosses that line he begins to behave exactly like a feminist. He looks for any hint of an opportunity to play the victim. It is NOT normal or natural for men to behave in that way. That is FEMININE behavior that is magnified by causes such as feminism.

This thread isn't about discussing feminism...it's about discussing the way in which some of the guys here are responding to it.

Again...being informed, aware and resisting the negative messages are very important for men. That's not at all what I'm talking about here. I'm talking about what happens when it goes TOO far and becomes VERY destructive for men who become obsessed with it.

No, I don't sound anything like a feminist at all. This is a perfect example of what is going on here that is so bad. You can't just go through live assuming and insisting that every woman you come into contact with must be a feminist. If you LOOK for some hint that she is you're going to find something. It's the same with racism and sexism. If someone wants to find something, if they look long enough, they're going to come up with some innocent remark or behavior to blow way out of proportion.

It's not healthy to do that.