The current dating market and how I see this century playing out

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It certainly is to blame early on, but after a while, maybe not so much. That said, I could a man for whom it was OVER in a coed high school later seeing Mary Jane Rottencrotch finally take interest in him (she will usually be a single mommy or a Wall-hitter by then :rolleyes:). For myself, it made realize early on that I needed to do cold approaches in some way just to get a stream of possibilities, whereas folks who had a normal high-school experience could probably rely on dating gals he knew (or their accumulated friends, etc.) in high school. :mad:
The issue is that girls in Hs are more open to meeting different guys and this will give a guy the needed experience to hold himself in college and etc. However, obtaining this experience is on the guy and the ones that choose to neglect this opportunity end up bitter black Pillers or incels in college. College is a brutal environment and not as novice friendly as High School.
 

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The issue is that girls in Hs are more open to meeting different guys and this will give a guy the needed experience to hold himself in college and etc. However, obtaining this experience is on the guy and the ones that choose to neglect this opportunity end up bitter black Pillers or incels in college. College is a brutal environment and not as novice friendly as High School.
It's over as soon as you go to an all boys school.
 

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The issue is that girls in Hs are more open to meeting different guys and this will give a guy the needed experience to hold himself in college and etc. However, obtaining this experience is on the guy and the ones that choose to neglect this opportunity end up bitter black Pillers or incels in college. College is a brutal environment and not as novice friendly as High School.
This is totally true. I think one of the worst things that can happen to a young man during his developmental years is bouncing around to various school systems when he is growing up. The issue with this is that he fails to develop a solid social network of friends that he has throughout his teens. With the exception of those who are very socially gifted, many will struggle in a setting like this and it's totally possible for them to have no dating life or friends in high school and into their 20s. With that said, I feel that college can be a second chance for those who didn't do so well in high school, though it's definitely going to include a lot of harsh learning experiences. For those who don't have this second chance, it can be very difficult as a young adult if you aren't in the right set of circumstances.
 

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I think one of the worst things that can happen to a young man during his developmental years is bouncing around to various school systems when he is growing up. The issue with this is that he fails to develop a solid social network of friends that he has throughout his teens. With the exception of those who are very socially gifted, many will struggle in a setting like this and it's totally possible for them to have no dating life or friends in high school and into their 20s.
Childhood geographical relocations are some of the most damaging things that can happen. There can be lifelong social consequences that can result from that. Mental health therapy won't be able to fix all of the issues that stem from a bad geographical relocation experience.

Going from a public school to a private school or vice versa within the same area is not nearly as bad as a move to a different area.

With no social circle, a man becomes reliant upon in-person stranger approaching or tech-based dating methods, both of which are more difficult paths.

There are guys that do have a social circle but eventually burn through their social circle due to not marrying or having kids with their social circle facilitated relationships.

I feel that college can be a second chance for those who didn't do so well in high school, though it's definitely going to include a lot of harsh learning experiences. For those who don't have this second chance, it can be very difficult as a young adult if you aren't in the right set of circumstances.
College sex lives are often overrated too. We have a good thread on that.

 

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When it comes to women, I think a big issue I see is these "educated" women with degrees refusing to date or marry men that either earn less than them or those that don't have a degree. A lot of men are not bothering with college today because they realize it's a waste of time and a ticket to substantial student loan debt. I grew up in the Boston metro and had a family member that worked at a hospital as a nurse. She mentioned how these young nurses were complaining about being single and that they were having a hard time finding men to date. I listened to the story, and then she said that they'd say there were no good men to date nor were there any men with "brains" to date. Are you going to tell me that in one of the biggest metros in the U.S there are no men that met this qualifications these women had?
Those Boston area nurses were way too fussy. There are plenty of men with "brains" who are skilled tradesmen. There are plenty of men with "brains" working in STEM related occupations, including computer science and engineering. A lot of the STEM guys weren't giving these Boston area nurses "all the feelz" so they weren't dating these higher earning STEM guys. Meanwhile, a lot these STEM worker guys were incel/borderline incel.

I suspect that the soul crushing 9-5 office jobs will largely become increasingly female dominated over the years, even in industries like software engineering, because men will have less motivation to work hard fat these soul crushing jobs if they cannot attract a women and start a family.
That's also the point I was trying to bring up about men working hard. I personally believe that everything men do is ultimately to achieve status of some type, which at the end of the day means a higher chance of reproducing. A lot of this stuff is subconscious and not fully aware thoughts like "If I bust my ass at this job I can make a lot of money, buy a bunch of nice cars and clothes and this will let me attract women.".
Men can go a few different ways with regard to managing their work life.

1. They can drop out of work and engage in sedation from video games, free porn, etc. Plenty of men are doing this. Plus, there are also men using money unwisely and simping on OnlyFans, Instagram, etc.

2. They can work even harder to use money to get sex, either from attracting women from having lavish possessions or from paying directly for sex.

3. They can work minimally, build big muscles, and use their physiques to get laid.
 
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I feel that college can be a second chance for those who didn't do so well in high school, though it's definitely going to include a lot of harsh learning experiences. For those who don't have this second chance, it can be very difficult as a young adult if you aren't in the right set of circumstances.
Depends on the college. If it’s a typical party university, I’d say the guy is better off just focusing on his degree. Like you said, college can be extremely harsh to a novice and it might permanently damage him from women forever. I don’t care how hard you are, if you walk in to a room and seeing your gf cheating on you with some Chad or athlete, that’s hard to get over. If you want to get better with women, you are better off going to a smaller nerdy/or niche oriented college where Hypergamy is less brutal.
 

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Depends on the college. If it’s a typical party university, I’d say the guy is better off just focusing on his degree. Like you said, college can be extremely harsh to a novice and it might permanently damage him from women forever. I don’t care how hard you are, if you walk in to a room and seeing your gf cheating on you with some Chad or athlete, that’s hard to get over. If you want to get better with women, you are better off going to a smaller nerdy/or niche oriented college where Hypergamy is less brutal.

That thread is more focused upon typical public universities that are party schools. However, it does occasionally veer into smaller colleges.

I went to a public university with a good party scene that I've called "Hot Girl U" on here before.

It was a tough mating environment. There was intense competition for the good looking women on campus during that time. It was difficult to compete with the on campus 'Chads'. I didn't have the experience of having a girlfriend cheat on me with a 'Chad', but I can imagine what you describe would be traumatic.

I agree that a smaller, less hyped college/university is often a healthier mating environment than the larger public universities that are often "party schools".
 

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OP this thread is spot on
The AI evolution is growing faster than anyone could have expected (although I reckon they had the tech behind the scenes for years)
I reckon in the 2030s "AI" girlfriends will become more popular, with hyperinflation (which ain't stopping anytime soon) dating will be a luxury. Heck there was an article that came out earlier this year that Millennials and Gen-Z are in debt cause of using credit cards to pay for dating (which I assume is probably 90% of men)

It's gonna get ugly you gonna see regular men struggle but OP is right there will be a movement towards Traditionalism/Christianity within the next 10 years as well for people who don't wanna deal with AI, robots, and any other future degeneracy to come
 

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OP this thread is spot on
The AI evolution is growing faster than anyone could have expected (although I reckon they had the tech behind the scenes for years)
I reckon in the 2030s "AI" girlfriends will become more popular, with hyperinflation (which ain't stopping anytime soon) dating will be a luxury. Heck there was an article that came out earlier this year that Millennials and Gen-Z are in debt cause of using credit cards to pay for dating (which I assume is probably 90% of men)

It's gonna get ugly you gonna see regular men struggle but OP is right there will be a movement towards Traditionalism/Christianity within the next 10 years as well for people who don't wanna deal with AI, robots, and any other future degeneracy to come
I laughed seeing Elon Musk as your picture lol.

I totally agree about your comments about AI tech being around for much longer than we realize, as you said I guarantee it's been something behind the curtains for quite a while now that they intentionally chose not to reveal. I think AI and automation are going to be the biggest innovations/inventions that completely shape civilization in this century. As I mentioned on my original post, modern societies are rapidly aging and there will be a shortage of working age adults. These technologies may actually become a necessity down the road. I believe that AI and automation will first replace mundane jobs, which is already occurring right now, but will eventually start taking on much bigger roles as the technology advances. I see AI becoming a huge thing in medicine and science in particular. I believe AI will create major scientific breakthroughs that have profound impacts on society. I'm talking things like curing cancer, nuclear fusion, reverse aging, space travel, etc.

I can't say how this will change society in the way humans live though, that is just pure speculation. Humans will still have jobs or careers, it just will cause a shift in the manner of which we work. When the engine, dishwasher and internet were invented we didn't see humans just sit around all day doing nothing, it just freed up time and made things far easier. I see automation and AI playing out like this but I also see low skill workers being rendered useless and incapable. As bad as it sounds, many people do not have the natural aptitude or intelligence to even be qualified to enlist into the U.S Army, and if they can't do that what would they be able to do in an advanced society like this? It's an interesting idea in that it may spur human evolution to where the average IQ is slightly higher than what it is today.

I've been watching/listening about a lot of this AI stuff lately and I'm convinced it's going to completely shape this century and from there on. Seeing it capable of creating it's own artwork, and now they are even using it to recreate voices of deceased/aging actors......crazy stuff.

As for humans themselves, while we may live in a more advanced society I do believe that there is going to be a shift, as I had alluded to in my original post. The things I'm discussing about AI are not going to be tomorrow, but I can see some of these social changes within a couple decades. I think the leftist/woke types are going to be slowly bred out, which literally just leaves those who hold on to more traditional values. In my opinion, I believe that this leftist experiment has been a complete failure and people are now realizing it. Gay people and trannies will naturally not reproduce. Career women with a masculine mindset will reproduce but at much lower rates compared to more traditional women. These career women are also incredibly unhappy and people are now aware of this, thus normal women wouldn't want to emulate their behavior.

As for men specifically, I think it's important to invest a lot and pursue wealth but also work hard at a job and became irreplaceable if possible. I think the trades are not going anywhere and this would be a fantastic time to learn to be a plumber or something along those lines. AI and automation will not be able to replace something like this for a very very long time.
 

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I laughed seeing Elon Musk as your picture lol.

I totally agree about your comments about AI tech being around for much longer than we realize, as you said I guarantee it's been something behind the curtains for quite a while now that they intentionally chose not to reveal. I think AI and automation are going to be the biggest innovations/inventions that completely shape civilization in this century. As I mentioned on my original post, modern societies are rapidly aging and there will be a shortage of working age adults. These technologies may actually become a necessity down the road. I believe that AI and automation will first replace mundane jobs, which is already occurring right now, but will eventually start taking on much bigger roles as the technology advances. I see AI becoming a huge thing in medicine and science in particular. I believe AI will create major scientific breakthroughs that have profound impacts on society. I'm talking things like curing cancer, nuclear fusion, reverse aging, space travel, etc.

I can't say how this will change society in the way humans live though, that is just pure speculation. Humans will still have jobs or careers, it just will cause a shift in the manner of which we work. When the engine, dishwasher and internet were invented we didn't see humans just sit around all day doing nothing, it just freed up time and made things far easier. I see automation and AI playing out like this but I also see low skill workers being rendered useless and incapable. As bad as it sounds, many people do not have the natural aptitude or intelligence to even be qualified to enlist into the U.S Army, and if they can't do that what would they be able to do in an advanced society like this? It's an interesting idea in that it may spur human evolution to where the average IQ is slightly higher than what it is today.

I've been watching/listening about a lot of this AI stuff lately and I'm convinced it's going to completely shape this century and from there on. Seeing it capable of creating it's own artwork, and now they are even using it to recreate voices of deceased/aging actors......crazy stuff.

As for humans themselves, while we may live in a more advanced society I do believe that there is going to be a shift, as I had alluded to in my original post. The things I'm discussing about AI are not going to be tomorrow, but I can see some of these social changes within a couple decades. I think the leftist/woke types are going to be slowly bred out, which literally just leaves those who hold on to more traditional values. In my opinion, I believe that this leftist experiment has been a complete failure and people are now realizing it. Gay people and trannies will naturally not reproduce. Career women with a masculine mindset will reproduce but at much lower rates compared to more traditional women. These career women are also incredibly unhappy and people are now aware of this, thus normal women wouldn't want to emulate their behavior.

As for men specifically, I think it's important to invest a lot and pursue wealth but also work hard at a job and became irreplaceable if possible. I think the trades are not going anywhere and this would be a fantastic time to learn to be a plumber or something along those lines. AI and automation will not be able to replace something like this for a very very long time.
OP I've been aware of the rise of AI since 2019/2020ish, however I didn't start taking it seriosuly until Jan 2023. Since then I have delved into the rabbit hole just like you have hence your post resonates deeply with me.

I don't think people realize how fast things are changing. If people think Facebook/Uber/Online dating etc rose quickly in the early 2000's and 2010's. The advancement of AI is gonna rock people, here is what I expect. Here are some hyptotheticals that I think may happen

  • 2030's Virtual assistant's will be the norm(think Jarvis or Friday in Ironman). Chatgpt will be the norm on your "Smart Satalite Blockchain Cellphone" AI will replace data entry jobs, accountant jobs. The medical field as you mentioned will make leaps and bounds with breakthroughs and medical advancements i.e. curing aids, certain cancers, etc
  • 2040's AI robots will be more common they won't have full functionality like humans yet. You will see VR and Metaverse become more popular due to the increase in tech. Commerical real estate buildings are now 90% filled with clout servers. (currently most commerical real estate buildings are empty due to people working from home) also new tech allows for new different types of energy. That we haven't even thought of yet.
  • 2050s Automation will be more common due to AI, AI girlfriends and the metaverse will be more common God forbid. The finacial sector and tech companies will be run by AI the wealth gap will get worse there will be no middle class just poor and wealthy. A gallon of milk will be a $1000. Where it use to cost you $10 to get into a club now it cost $10,000(and that's not VIP) people think this is nuts but if you have paid attention to the dollar losing 1/3rd of it's value in the last 3 years alone and at the rate that we are going what I'm saying is not far fetched if we continue at this rate!
  • 2060s AI robotos can now fully function like humans and AI tech will explode, people will spend more time in the VR/Metaverse than offline due to the realizm of 16K. AI popstars/Actors are now becoming more popular than humans....

I'll stop there, what scares me OP is that people don't realize that with every PRO AI has there 5 cons. For example Privacy will not exist if you put a chip in your brain. They will be able to track you and monitor your every step. They know what you spend your money on due to CBDCs. People will spend more time in VR and Metaverse as tech continues to explode Anti-social behavior is the new norm. We already see this with Gen--Z and how they don't care to go out regarding nightlife (nothing wrong with that) however the better the tech becomes the more anti-social humans are becoming.

 

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OP I've been aware of the rise of AI since 2019/2020ish, however I didn't start taking it seriosuly until Jan 2023. Since then I have delved into the rabbit hole just like you have hence your post resonates deeply with me.

I don't think people realize how fast things are changing. If people think Facebook/Uber/Online dating etc rose quickly in the early 2000's and 2010's. The advancement of AI is gonna rock people, here is what I expect. Here are some hyptotheticals that I think may happen

  • 2030's Virtual assistant's will be the norm(think Jarvis or Friday in Ironman). Chatgpt will be the norm on your "Smart Satalite Blockchain Cellphone" AI will replace data entry jobs, accountant jobs. The medical field as you mentioned will make leaps and bounds with breakthroughs and medical advancements i.e. curing aids, certain cancers, etc
  • 2040's AI robots will be more common they won't have full functionality like humans yet. You will see VR and Metaverse become more popular due to the increase in tech. Commerical real estate buildings are now 90% filled with clout servers. (currently most commerical real estate buildings are empty due to people working from home) also new tech allows for new different types of energy. That we haven't even thought of yet.
  • 2050s Automation will be more common due to AI, AI girlfriends and the metaverse will be more common God forbid. The finacial sector and tech companies will be run by AI the wealth gap will get worse there will be no middle class just poor and wealthy. A gallon of milk will be a $1000. Where it use to cost you $10 to get into a club now it cost $10,000(and that's not VIP) people think this is nuts but if you have paid attention to the dollar losing 1/3rd of it's value in the last 3 years alone and at the rate that we are going what I'm saying is not far fetched if we continue at this rate!
  • 2060s AI robotos can now fully function like humans and AI tech will explode, people will spend more time in the VR/Metaverse than offline due to the realizm of 16K. AI popstars/Actors are now becoming more popular than humans....

I'll stop there, what scares me OP is that people don't realize that with every PRO AI has there 5 cons. For example Privacy will not exist if you put a chip in your brain. They will be able to track you and monitor your every step. They know what you spend your money on due to CBDCs. People will spend more time in VR and Metaverse as tech continues to explode Anti-social behavior is the new norm. We already see this with Gen--Z and how they don't care to go out regarding nightlife (nothing wrong with that) however the better the tech becomes the more anti-social humans are becoming.

Its a recipe for human extinction in developed countries. Or perhaps artificial reproduction will become accepted. You'll be able to order a factory made baby from Walgreens and have it teleported to your doorstep.

I also believe there will a group that resists and perhaps reverts back to old ways. The Amish population is something to pay attention to. They keep growing. Amish families produce 7 children on average.
 
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