"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The Consequences of Trading up for Women (told by 2 gorgeous women)

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Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone are not only super hot IMO, and they not only have great chemistry as a pair, but they drop a truth bomb that will have feminists in tears.

They say "Women, you have huge value... that is on the decline".

 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yea, my d!ck didn't think they were that hot at first glance, though smashable without hearing them speak or knowing zilch about them. They did get quite a bit more attractive the more I listened though.
 

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What are you guys talking about? They're both beautiful and intelligent, definitely not a 5.

Personally, I prefer the brunette girl just because I like brunettes.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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That's how you look when you go a week without botox or nail work.
Aww, Still sore that Photofeeler rated your paid strippers second-tier to my free July harem?

Never got botox, but would def recommend for those 1-lb eye bags you're sporting sport
 

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Hey you big baby.
Attraction is not a choice and is personal.
The chin and cheeks on the brunette? Nah not for me man.

The blondes fake azz color? Comone dude. Really? Is that blonde or terrarium sand? Wtf is that?
I'm glad NEILing is back, with the lack of intelligence in the forums these days, I need some entertainment here.
 
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Aww, Still sore that Photofeeler rated your paid strippers second-tier to my free July harem?

Never got botox, but would def recommend for those 1-lb eye bags you're sporting sport
In your opinion, why are you able to do this for free while he, and others, are not? Do you even pay for dates or anything? You said that looks is the #1 reason they like you. But if that were the whole story, wouldn't young girls be able to find a young guy better looking than you?

And why July? Why not November or December?
 

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7s to me mainly based on good body. Hair s kinda weird on both.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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In your opinion, why are you able to do this for free while he, and others, are not? Do you even pay for dates or anything? You said that looks is the #1 reason they like you. But if that were the whole story, wouldn't young girls be able to find a young guy better looking than you?

And why July? Why not November or December?
When I say "free," I refer to giving them no money to date or fvck. Any man can get girls for free, and even have girls pay for the date if that's their style.

I said this before: It's a sexual marketplace. The value you give is the value you receive. If you were a 5 SMV but seek 9s, you have several choices:

1) Pay for the 9s;
2) Make yourself a 7-9 (looks, status, and/or wealth) and play the number's game;
3) Have other compensating factors which meet her needs whereas the girl will overlook the SMV deficiency.

Number 3 is most difficult and the rare exception to the SMV rule. Within this scenario you could see a broke fat guy with no/little status that struts around with his 9 gf, while everyone is scratching their head trying to understand the dynamic.

It seems you exercise Option 1 and are hoping for Option 3. The problem with Option 3 for you is in addition to it being a rarity, that is being at the right place, right time, right girl, and right "game" exercised to meet her needs, it also requires that you have a developed personality to capitalize on such an option if it ever did present itself.

Accordingly, I stand by what I originally advocated. Work on Option 2 (Make yourself a 7-9 SMV) and work on your social skills.
 

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They aren’t cute. But their points are valid. Lots of lonely 35 year old women who kept trading up and now don’t have a guy who wants to be with them. Riding the carousel always has consequences.
 

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Ikr. Everytime a dude says he's experienced, followed by... Yea, bro I've ****ed at least 25 women in my life, I question my sanity and wtf I'm even doing on this site. I think there's probably around a half dozen dudes, that actually know wtf they're talking about in this site and when, BE or AJ try to put them on game OMG! Look, if you are in prison and you are trying to escape prison, you're probably going to learn more about the system from a fellow prisoner. I don't follow blindly and I don't agree with chit I've never lived, but a hard head makes for a soft ass and good advice gets dismissed, just because it comes from a b!tchs' mouth. Completely fvcking gay Imo.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Ikr. Everytime a dude says he's experienced, followed by... Yea, bro I've ****ed at least 25 women in my life, I question my sanity and wtf I'm even doing on this site. I think there's probably around a half dozen dudes, that actually know wtf they're talking about in this site and when, BE or AJ try to put them on game OMG! Look, if you are in prison and you are trying to escape prison, you're probably going to learn more about the system from a fellow prisoner. I don't follow blindly and I don't agree with chit I've never lived, but a hard head makes for a soft ass and good advice gets dismissed, just because it comes from a b!tchs' mouth. Completely fvcking gay Imo.
Dude are you okay?

Lauren Southern and Brittany Pettibone are not only super hot IMO, and they not only have great chemistry as a pair, but they drop a truth bomb that will have feminists in tears.

They say "Women, you have huge value... that is on the decline".

These chicks are certainly not "5's" based on ANY general group rating schedule. Of course seeing as though everybody on Sosuave dates Exotic Foreign Models, I guess any regular "cute girl" is degraded to a 5 lol. I would put them at 6.5 to 7.2 out of 10.

When I say "free," I refer to giving them no money to date or fvck. Any man can get girls for free, and even have girls pay for the date if that's their style.

I said this before: It's a sexual marketplace. The value you give is the value you receive. If you were a 5 SMV but seek 9s, you have several choices:

1) Pay for the 9s;
2) Make yourself a 7-9 (looks, status, and/or wealth) and play the number's game;
3) Have other compensating factors which meet her needs whereas the girl will overlook the SMV deficiency.

Number 3 is most difficult and the rare exception to the SMV rule. Within this scenario you could see a broke fat guy with no/little status that struts around with his 9 gf, while everyone is scratching their head trying to understand the dynamic.

It seems you exercise Option 1 and are hoping for Option 3. The problem with Option 3 for you is in addition to it being a rarity, that is being at the right place, right time, right girl, and right "game" exercised to meet her needs, it also requires that you have a developed personality to capitalize on such an option if it ever did present itself.

Accordingly, I stand by what I originally advocated. Work on Option 2 (Make yourself a 7-9 SMV) and work on your social skills.
This is a good breakdown, the problem is that the sexual marketplace isn't universal, it's more specific to the cultures you are dealing with. The sexual marketplace in the hood or trailer park, is completely different than it is in the upper class, gated community, white suburbs.
 
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When I say "free," I refer to giving them no money to date or fvck. Any man can get girls for free, and even have girls pay for the date if that's their style.

I said this before: It's a sexual marketplace. The value you give is the value you receive. If you were a 5 SMV but seek 9s, you have several choices:

1) Pay for the 9s;
2) Make yourself a 7-9 (looks, status, and/or wealth) and play the number's game;
3) Have other compensating factors which meet her needs whereas the girl will overlook the SMV deficiency.

Number 3 is most difficult and the rare exception to the SMV rule. Within this scenario you could see a broke fat guy with no/little status that struts around with his 9 gf, while everyone is scratching their head trying to understand the dynamic.

It seems you exercise Option 1 and are hoping for Option 3. The problem with Option 3 for you is in addition to it being a rarity, that is being at the right place, right time, right girl, and right "game" exercised to meet her needs, it also requires that you have a developed personality to capitalize on such an option if it ever did present itself.

Accordingly, I stand by what I originally advocated. Work on Option 2 (Make yourself a 7-9 SMV) and work on your social skills.
I'm working on the money thing with my house flipping. That's why I talk about it so much.
 

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Dude are you okay?
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This is a good breakdown, the problem is that the sexual marketplace isn't universal, it's more specific to the cultures you are dealing with. The sexual marketplace in the hood or trailer park, is completely different than it is in the upper class, gated community, white suburbs.
If I were to guess, guru probably lives on the upscale/gated community side of the spectrum and I'm more accustomed to the hood/trailer park side of things and I thought these girls were nothing special myself on either side of the fence. I would have said 6's, without hearing them speak. They seem to have a little common sense and after the vid, I would rate them a 7-7½. If I were to bang them both at the same time, ehhh... 8. I'd give er hell trying to bang the lisp out of Blondie.
 

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Hey you big baby.
Attraction is not a choice and is personal.
The chin and cheeks on the brunette? Nah not for me man.

The blondes fake azz color? Comone dude. Really? Is that blonde or terrarium sand? Wtf is that?
Hey dingpuller, I didn't ask you to rate the women, I asked you to listen to them.

And just so you know, when women are white, 23 and skinny, they are above average.

But @guru1000 has yet to date a girl like that. He likes Polynesian women who didn't make the top 10 in my Photofeeler ratings due to low Trustworthy and Smart scores (and overdone boob job).


So much for men getting Botox leading to hotter dates.
 
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Hey dingpuller, I didn't ask you to rate the women, I asked you to listen to them.

And just so you know, when women are white, 23 and skinny, they are above average.

But @guru1000 has yet to date a girl like that. He likes Polynesian women who didn't make the top 10 in my Photofeeler ratings due to low Trustworthy and Smart scores (and overdone boob job).


So much for men getting Botox leading to hotter dates.
I've had threesomes with girls who were both hotter than that. And could do it again with different girls any time I wanted.

Why does the fact that I paid for it matter? It's not like I invented the fact that girls like money.

Would those girls like guru if he wasn't rich?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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