"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The coffee date

Effington

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So Friday was my last day of work at my job, and as I was packing up my things, the girl I'm kind of interested in comes over and gives me her phone/email, says to keep in touch. We've exchanged a couple emails and decided to meet this weekend for coffee, which is cool.

Do you guys have any suggestions on late-afternoon stuff to do afterwards? I want to have a vague idea of stuff to do if we decided to hang out for more than a cup of coffee.

Any suggestions are appreciated!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Effington

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I think this girl has a little more class than that. Not sure she's a huge drinker, but definitely not the type to take to a bar at 4pm.

I told her we should meet at 4pm. I figure if things go well we can do dinner somewhere. I think this one is convinced that I'm a classy guy, cause I was usually pretty professional at work. What a sucker!

Hopefully she's a drinker, otherwise it will be an interesting day.
 

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Effington said:
I think this girl has a little more class than that. Not sure she's a huge drinker, but definitely not the type to take to a bar at 4pm.

I told her we should meet at 4pm. I figure if things go well we can do dinner somewhere. I think this one is convinced that I'm a classy guy, cause I was usually pretty professional at work. What a sucker!

Hopefully she's a drinker, otherwise it will be an interesting day.

should be interesting regardless ;)


no reason to get a girl hammered to get to where you wanna be...
 

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Getting something to eat is always good. Keep it casual and not too expensive.

If things are going very well, no matter how "classy" she is, there is a good chance she will be open, even suggest, going to a bar for some drinks. She just needs to relieve some anxiety.

If you have access to a beach, you can go there in the evening.

Park.
 

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I live spitting distance from Lake Michigan, but we just had record cold temperatures and there's a half a foot of snow outside. This isn't California!

I hope you're right. I guess we'll see what happens. I always flirted with her at work (she's HOT!), but I didn't work there very long, so don't know her very well. I remember one day she gave me a double take when she saw me decked out in a nice suit (I used to work for a high class suit manufacturer, so have some nice custom made garments, and I was going straight to a wedding that day), which was amusing. But I digress.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Not sure if this is good or bad, she said she had a thing at 5, so didn't want to meet for such a short period of time; she lives on the other side of town. Work is closer to my place so she said we'll hang out after work sometime next week.
 
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