The child-man

[Bible_Belt]

A chick I know sent that article out as a myspace bulletin.

 

[Jon55]

I agree and I don't understand the fascination with all these articles being posted about men & women outlining how society is? If we are supposedly trying to live like DJ's then what does it really matter how one person views society or how one person acts.

We are our own people and hopefully those that choose to visit this site aren't going to let society get to them. You have to govern yourself according to what you want out of life.

I don't see how posting this stuff helps us out? It merely focusses on the negative.

Not for me. It's threads like this that get me thinking and realize where my train of though/mindset is wrong. Reading these responses is like seeing your guys' thoughts. It's very helpful actually, for afcs like me.

 

[reset]

...for afcs like me.

lol, you may want to rethink that statement/self-fulfilling prophecy.
Average Frustrated guys don't find places like this and work on improving themselves.

 

[Jon55]

lol, you may want to rethink that statement/self-fulfilling prophecy.
Average Frustrated guys don't find places like this and work on improving themselves.

Haha, ok good point. But really it's stuff like that really gives me a chance to pick at your thoughts and understand what "positive masculinity" really is.

Reading guides and tips only go so far. Sometimes a good discussion can do wonders.

If I could I'd buy you all a round of beers.

(A masculine man's real leverage is his own masculinity, she has NO replacement for this, and she knwos it, but many males DO NOT So they grow up BELIEVING that they MUST sacrifice and bend to her whims).

*head explodes out of sheer amazement*

 

[reset]

Reading guides and tips only go so far. Sometimes a good discussion can do wonders.

This is true. All this here is building an actual foundation for your life, guides and tips pale in comparison.

 

[DJDamage]

Here is the equivelent artice from the UK: in this one a woman is calling them Man-boys and shaming them for not wanting to get married.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article3283690.ece

 

[Last Man Standing]

Here is the equivelent artice from the UK: in this one a woman is calling them Man-boys and shaming them for not wanting to get married.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article3283690.ece

Hahaha, that's a funny pic on that link -- a bunch of 30 something hors trying to chase a man down to get him to accept her fallen state and to love and cherish her for the rest of his days!! I have to get a copy of that and hang it on my front door!!

Here is the caption to the article.. the hor saying..

"I'm tired of getting fvcked by different men and then them throwing me away like the hor that I am - my looks are fading - I have little time left to ensnare a fool - would you accept me in my wretched sperm-filled state and marry me?"

99.999999% of you will be saying "I Do" to this warped woman!!!

There are some excellent responses from men...such as this one...

The reason that so many men have come to hate the opposite SEX (we are human beings, not nouns), MKNB, is precisely because of articles like this one. Men didn't start the gender war, and it looks like the only way we can avoid making victims of women is to avoid them completely. But, WAIT, that makes victims of them too! I guess we are just hosed all the way around.

Regardless of how women like the author view men, men themselves like to think that they are somewhat more significant than another Prada handbag, pair of Jimmy Choo shoes, or piece of cheap Ikea furniture. But, to women like Laura Nolan we are nothing more than fashion accessories to their preferred lifestyle - another item on a to-do list to check off. It's not surprising that a group of people you totally dehumanize and disregard do not respond with expressions of undying love - AND shower you with (blood) diamonds.

Maybe women will one day wake up to the fact that they can't bash men into loving them.

 

[joekerr31]

Maybe women will one day wake up to the fact that they can't bash men into loving them.

here here!

 

[joekerr31]

Men are like eggs. They must hatch or go bad. I came to this conclusion after seeing in the new year with a gang of university friends and hearing one of them, a single guy of 35 called Jamie, declare with complete sincerity that his resolution for 2008 was not to get a girlfriend.

I groaned. His vow struck me as odd, not just because Jamie is a remarkably warm, kind and entertaining individual rather than some ropey Lothario, but because I knew him ten years ago when he was mustard keen to marry his then girlfriend. And when I thought harder about it, I realised that over the past decade Jamie has effectively been degenerating from the man he was at 25 years old to the boy he is today.

this is far as i could read. what utter drivel.

why don't people drive Ford anymore, because Honda is better. Why don't people eat at Macdonalds as much as Subway, because subway is better and healthier. why don't people listen to the radio as much anymore, because mp3s are better. why do people go to al pacino movies more than ice cube movies? because al pacino is better.

why are men no longer getting married as much? because being single is better than marrying most of the women out there.

i mean, the explanation really isn't that complicated.

if women were bringing a positive marriage experience to the table, more men would be doing it!

what i find fascinating is that its the men who are saying 'naw, no thanks, ill pass.'

talk about a shift in cultural norms! it use to be men chasing down women, picking one then pursuing her for marriage. now men aren't looking for marriage and women are F-U-C-K-E-D and dont know what to do.

 

[Master Bates]

Exactly. These women seem to think that men have an innate obligation to women to get married, and they're throwing a fit because men are wisening up and realizing that they in fact don't.

 

[joekerr31]

Exactly. These women seem to think that men have an innate obligation to women to get married, and they're throwing a fit because men are wisening up and realizing that they in fact don't.

you got it.

not getting married benefits the man more for sure as well. men dont need a woman to be successful in life, cope with life's stresses and enjoy life.

men can be quite happy having a successful career, sleeping with various women along the way, and enjoying the fruits of their labor. no wife and kids? great, more free time to pursue hobbies and more money available to do those hobbies.

women on the other hand lose big time. sure, they get to focus on their careers, but thats not what they care about. they want children (most of them anyway). so they lose that. they also lose someone they can b*tch and vent at. they also lose a bread winner for those years when she is pregnant. etc. as they get older demand for them goes down (whereas for men it goes up). etc.

while men dont even realize it, the whole womans movement and the ensuing 'indepence' women acheived, will in the long run actual end up freeing men.

 

[Master Bates]

while men dont even realize it, the whole womans movement and the ensuing 'indepence' women acheived, will in the long run actual end up freeing men.

This is something that struck me as well. For decades women have been fighting for independence and freedom from their traditional place in society, and now that they have it, they don't want it (as evidenced by articles like these), but the men are all like "hey, this is pretty nice!" And of course, now that the shoe is on the other foot, men are being called "immature" for it. Ooh, the bitterness!

 

[joekerr31]

This is something that struck me as well. For decades women have been fighting for independence and freedom from their traditional place in society, and now that they have it, they don't want it (as evidenced by articles like these), but the men are all like "hey, this is pretty nice!" And of course, now that the shoe is on the other foot, men are being called "immature" for it. Ooh, the bitterness!

haha. well im 33 and i gotta tell ya, im enjoying life. the thought of marriage, kids, family bills, responsibility, etc... not really that appealing.

id get married, but only if a woman that i was highly compatible with came along. in essence, if i truly fell in love and simply couldn't imagine myself being happier either with another woman OR on my own.

but otherwise, why would i bother? i make 100k+ and i enjoy having all that money spent on me

i suppose one could argue - but what are you going to do when you get old?

i'll do whatever all the other single people do, whatever that is getting married and having kids is no guarantee you won't end up alone either - they could all get hit by a bus and die.

moreover, im not afraid of death. i dont need a nurse maid or children to provide a sense of security and safety as i go through life. i dont see myself needing a family to still have a 'purpose' in this world when im 70.

the only scenario i could see myself having kids is if i met a woman who blew my socks off. because then i would feel comfortable that my kids would have 50% of her genes and likely possess the traits that i found so amazing in her.

if i never marry and have kids it wont bother me in the least. i dont believe the purpose of life is to reproduce - i simply see life as an experience with no actual purpose other than to experience it.

 

[Mr.Positive]

The reason that so many men have come to hate the opposite SEX (we are human beings, not nouns), MKNB, is precisely because of articles like this one. Men didn't start the gender war, and it looks like the only way we can avoid making victims of women is to avoid them completely. But, WAIT, that makes victims of them too! I guess we are just hosed all the way around.

Last Man, great post. This quote, particularly, almost knocked me off my chair from laughing so hard.

What's apparently happening, is men are becoming self-sufficient. I'll attest to it too, the only thing a woman really adds to my life, is companionship, and sex. Both of which, I've found, I can do with out. Hence, it's not a need, but more of a bonus.

However, I'm not opposed to getting married. If I met the right woman, I'd get married tomorrow. That's the honest truth.

In fact, I've said this to women before, who have asked me the question.."why are you not married?" in a tone more of an accusation, than curiousity. To fish for an answer to use against me, or single men in general.

By saying "I would get married tomorrow, if I met the right woman" to this type of woman does two things...

1) it throws it back in their face, the reality that maybe...men might actually want to be married, to a healthy woman who has a healthy view on life. A woman who contributes, who would be a good companion, in times of better or worse, and a woman who would be worth the sacrifices that men should make for the honor of a family.

2) it virtually destroys the attraction of the woman who asks me this question in the first place. Because this type of woman, is definitely NOT attracted to a man that places high moral values to what marriage should be. IE, to act like a chump can be a good thing, sometimes...to fend off the predators.

To have healthy marriages, both men and women must "man up". It takes both to make it work.

I've realized that for me to get married, I'd need a woman who understands that she must have strength too...feminine strength, which, from this article, is not being portrayed by these so-called 'victims'.

The more we mature and know about ourselves, as individual men, the more life's questions get answered.