"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Has anyone noticed how dating advice falls into two main categories:

1) How to get the girl
2) How to get your ex back

There is very little in between about how to maintain a woman once you have her.

We need a version of no contact for what is in between, which is more like minimal contact. Not every conflict means she is your ex. Not every bump means you should next her. You're not always broken up just because there is resistance (which the Art of Seduction says is a given in any seduction, and which we should embrace).
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Very few people have the inability to perform when everything's going good, when the girl is interested and everything is running smoothly. Most questions are derived out of "She acted/did (Insert unordinary behaviour here) What do I do now?"

I would agree that this forum does not have a lot of content of general maintenance; but imo it is what I would expect from a forum that's main focus is to attract and game multiple women. In a woman's eyes, generally speaking what they want, spinning plates, side action and narcissistic tendencies, is usually not a strategy for the long game.
 

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Has anyone noticed how dating advice falls into two main categories:

1) How to get the girl
2) How to get your ex back

There is very little in between about how to maintain a woman once you have her.

We need a version of no contact for what is in between, which is more like minimal contact. Not every conflict means she is your ex. Not every bump means you should next her. You're not always broken up just because there is resistance (which the Art of Seduction says is a given in any seduction, and which we should embrace).
The perspective is wrong. She should be trying to get you! Once she has you, what is she going to do? The chasm is the space, you create, for that to happen.
 

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By chasm I meant in between getting her and breaking up.

My main point is, the vast majority of a relationship is in between picking her up and breaking up. Most of the problems that occur happen during this time. Unless these in between problems are solved, breakup is imminent (especially today where it genuinely seems like one strike and you're out). By solving 2 or 3 of these problems, by prolonging the breakup, you turn a one night stand into a long term relationship.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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You will usually find it in marriage therapy kind of things. It is really about just not getting complacent, don't cfhange who you are just because you ahve been with someone a while. For example...

1. If you were in great shape when you met, that should be maintained
2. If you were firm on decisions, you shouldn't change
3. Go out and continue to have fun
4. If you had friends you spent time with, keep doing that

Alot of guys (many actually), fall into complacency with the everyday crap that comes up. You need to keep it exciting for her, and always maintain control. Very hard to do in an extensive LTR...

Long story short... Those who play together, stay together!
 

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what you are essentially saying is that arguments and disagreements are normal and should not be considered a sign that the relationship is over. What you are essentially asking is - what is a good strategy for we get into an argument?

My response is raise your standards and find a female that can actually have mature conversations when she is upset so you can both discuss the issue like adults and decide what to do about it.

What I see them men on these boards deal with are emotional females who escalate issues into dramatics. These men are angry because they feel that there is no loyalty for the longevity of the relationship and time they have put in to it. They feel backed into a corner when females get angry - fearing losing the female, but also not understanding why things are so explosive. They feel like, if they dont cave, she will walk. I wish they would raise their standards. Relationships that work involve two people who communicate in an effort to solve problems. The female who naturally communicats is the one who is pre-wired to be loyal and value her relationship. She recognizes that her man, and her relationship, is worthy of calm, constructive discussion. She is not afraid to compromise with her man in order to show he's about "them". Any chick that brings drama shold be told immediately you wont tolerate anything less than calm communication in order to problem solve. If after this, she continues to bring the drama, she is sub standard to you and needs to be dismissed.
 

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what you are essentially saying is that arguments and disagreements are normal and should not be considered a sign that the relationship is over. What you are essentially asking is - what is a good strategy for we get into an argument?

My response is raise your standards and find a female that can actually have mature conversations when she is upset so you can both discuss the issue like adults and decide what to do about it.

What I see them men on these boards deal with are emotional females who escalate issues into dramatics. These men are angry because they feel that there is no loyalty for the longevity of the relationship and time they have put in to it. They feel backed into a corner when females get angry - fearing losing the female, but also not understanding why things are so explosive. They feel like, if they dont cave, she will walk. I wish they would raise their standards. Relationships that work involve two people who communicate in an effort to solve problems. The female who naturally communicats is the one who is pre-wired to be loyal and value her relationship. She recognizes that her man, and her relationship, is worthy of calm, constructive discussion. She is not afraid to compromise with her man in order to show he's about "them". Any chick that brings drama shold be told immediately you wont tolerate anything less than calm communication in order to problem solve. If after this, she continues to bring the drama, she is sub standard to you and needs to be dismissed.
Word! And instead of dismissing them, men stick around to get their hearts broken...
 

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If she's chasing, there is no breakup. (only if you initiate it.)

Also, if she's chasing, you will naturally not give a fuk.

Her chasing = no problems, unless you don't like her.
 

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what you are essentially saying is that arguments and disagreements are normal and should not be considered a sign that the relationship is over. What you are essentially asking is - what is a good strategy for we get into an argument?

My response is raise your standards and find a female that can actually have mature conversations when she is upset so you can both discuss the issue like adults and decide what to do about it.

What I see them men on these boards deal with are emotional females who escalate issues into dramatics. These men are angry because they feel that there is no loyalty for the longevity of the relationship and time they have put in to it. They feel backed into a corner when females get angry - fearing losing the female, but also not understanding why things are so explosive. They feel like, if they dont cave, she will walk. I wish they would raise their standards. Relationships that work involve two people who communicate in an effort to solve problems. The female who naturally communicats is the one who is pre-wired to be loyal and value her relationship. She recognizes that her man, and her relationship, is worthy of calm, constructive discussion. She is not afraid to compromise with her man in order to show he's about "them". Any chick that brings drama shold be told immediately you wont tolerate anything less than calm communication in order to problem solve. If after this, she continues to bring the drama, she is sub standard to you and needs to be dismissed.
Very well said. I completely agree.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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