Yes. That's why you have no authority to give advice on the subject.Deus ex Pianoforte said:I can't talk to girls. Remember?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Yes. That's why you have no authority to give advice on the subject.Deus ex Pianoforte said:I can't talk to girls. Remember?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Deus ex Pianoforte said:That's total bullѕhit, man. Just because girls paralyze me with intimidation doesn't mean that I can't speak intelligently of the experiences that I HAVE had with women.
Maybe, but human nature is fairly pervasive.Deus ex Pianoforte said:Or much more likely...things are different on another CONTINENT.
I wasn't aware California had already started it's trek towards Hawaii.Deus ex Pianoforte said:Or much more likely...things are different on another CONTINENT.
Ah, yeah I have people in India, Ireland and a few other places working on my projects, plus the cute little project manager for one of them is a Brit Chick. Also some of the components come from an R&D group we keep in the UK.Deus ex Pianoforte said:Oh. British spelling, but you live in America. Gotcha.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
This is true, however it's not really useful. More useful is the question "If you offered the woman who's admiring the RR a choice between having a RR and a Yugo, which will she likely choose?" Or more precisely "If you offered the woman who's admiring the RR a choice between having a guy driving a RR and a guy driving a Yugo, which will she likely choose all else equal?"Deus ex Pianoforte said:Women can ADMIRE good looks without REQUIRING them. You know, kind of like they can admire a Rolls Royce without requiring a man to drive one?
My experience is that this is true, in fact they are generally just being more selective because they can.Nighthawk said:Hot women are not dying to reject guys, they are dying to be fucked. Agree or disagree?
Wrong, but even if they enjoy both, they still do both. Do you want to be one of the ones they ****, or are you just wasting your time being here?Deus ex Pianoforte said:The pleasure of shooting a man down trumps the pleasure of sex..
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Ironically enough (for a guy who loves strawmen) the best you could probably do is to claim this is an improper extension of your analogy since you introduced the analogy (woman admires RR) it makes that strawman claim pretty disingenuous.Deus ex Pianoforte said:Ironically enough, by equating cars with human beings you are flirting with strawman territory. You just left the building, in other words.
OK.Deus ex Pianoforte said:Let's not jump the gun, here.
Hot women reject a lot of guys because there are tons of "overconfident dillusional losers" with nothing to offer who get on her all day long. That's why some HB's develop that "*****face" to keep losers away. But most HB's are open to meeting guys who look like they take care of themselves physically,have ambition and a good personality. There are guys dating these women,so obviously your phobia's are extreme.Deus ex Pianoforte said:The last compliment I received was "You are very good-looking."
I understand that, but I just can't do it. If a woman is too hot, she's just dying to reject guys anyway so there's no point in trying to make eye contact with them unless you're a masochist or in the very upper echelons of PUA's.
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So what will the hotties do to you, not sleep with you? Sounds a lot like the outcome of not walking up. Look at it this way, if you get a 0.4% success rate and approach 10 per day, you'll be on a date with a hb9 within 25 days or so .....Deus ex Pianoforte said:Unless I achieve fame or fortune, I seriously doubt I'll ever get the chance to bust inside one of those girls.
They won't remember you and how is asking a fellow human for contact info degrading? If anything they have degraded themselves.Deus ex Pianoforte said:Enough to degrade myself 999 times and allow anybody in the nearby vicinity to snicker behind my back whenever I see them in the future? I don't know.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Nighthawk said:Do you believe you can change?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.