"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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That was quite entertaining to read and yes a very good post. Remided me of some shyt I did with a women that was initially attracted to me. Man the more you push the more they pull!!! I learned my lesson the hard way just like ole RICHARD did. RICHARD has a very good friend that broke it down so he could understand.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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right... it's in "the art of seduction" too by robert green

in seduction, you appeal to their SELF INTEREST... you DO NOT appeal to their PITY or obligation. you want them to want you for themselves, not feel like they OWE YOU something.

it's a tough thing to get right though... in some ways, we're SUPPOSED to think of ourselves more than the women we woo and in other ways, that gets us shot dead in the water....

but i guess the essence is that we're salesman and the product is us.

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holy crap, thanks for that, this girl i been workin on lately, i know how much she loves watching the show "scrubs" and also how much she loves adventure and how she's never been surfing.

This was last week when we met.....today i was just chatting away, talkin about watchin tv, then because i'd read this post, i brought up how awesome it would be to spend an entire day in bed with somebody just watchin scrubs, eatin pizza n icecream and makin woopee (mallrats reference = sex) then kept goin on about how good holidays are. She didn't say anything in reply to it but i got instant extra body language attention and her interest levels have definitely spiked, the funny thing was i did love what i said i loved, i just didn't think to say it.

Seems like if you portray yourself as the type of guy she'd be into, she'll be into you, well this girl should be into me because she likes what i like, so it's not me pandering to her wants, it's us fitting eachothers wants perfectly

very thought provoking stuff, ta again
 

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Delta said:
right... it's in "the art of seduction" too by robert green

in seduction, you appeal to their SELF INTEREST... you DO NOT appeal to their PITY or obligation. you want them to want you for themselves, not feel like they OWE YOU something.

it's a tough thing to get right though... in some ways, we're SUPPOSED to think of ourselves more than the women we woo and in other ways, that gets us shot dead in the water....

but i guess the essence is that we're salesman and the product is us.

delta
Appealing to self interest, being like a salesman.. you're thinking like a man persuading another man to do something based on your will not the other party's true self interest. the last time I check, women do not think like men. Also would say that some people like myself immediately build a wall of distrust around salesmen tactics which some PUA consider effective, only effective with the dumber/less experienced crowed I suppose.
 

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I'm rebumping this so the dozen or more dumb posts which have almost nothing to do with dating women issues in general are bogging the whole forum down.

DeepBlue is worthy of the DJBible, The DJB needs to be updated, despite most of the content still being relevant to this day there has been some new insightful posts from other users.
 

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Hitman10000 said:
I'm rebumping this so the dozen or more dumb posts which have almost nothing to do with dating women issues in general are bogging the whole forum down.

DeepBlue is worthy of the DJBible, The DJB needs to be updated, despite most of the content still being relevant to this day there has been some new insightful posts from other users.
Too true, I keep my own compendium of really great posts ^^ really, who needs 6 posts on kino? Overkill. How about two words: use it.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Hitman10000 said:
DeepBlue is worthy of the DJBible, The DJB needs to be updated, despite most of the content still being relevant to this day there has been some new insightful posts from other users.
As someone who was around when the largest number of posts were added to the Bible, I can tell you the Bible is constituted of mainly two types of posts...

1) Posts that are inspiring, and fit more into the "feel good" category than the deep-digging posts like this one that really get to the heart of the issues.

2) Posts that were written with the specific goal of making it to the Bible. Of the posts by me that are in the Bible (under my old screen name), one of them was such a post and I know others did the same.
 

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Appealing to self interest, being like a salesman.. you're thinking like a man persuading another man to do something based on your will not the other party's true self interest. the last time I check, women do not think like men. Also would say that some people like myself immediately build a wall of distrust around salesmen tactics which some PUA consider effective, only effective with the dumber/less experienced crowed I suppose.

This is the best thread I have ever read here. How do you do this though? Lets say you know a girl who thinks you're "awesome" and have an "awesome" or funny personality... how do you sell this? How do you turn that into, you should go out with me because I am awesome?
 

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Hitman10000 said:
Appealing to self interest, being like a salesman.. you're thinking like a man persuading another man to do something based on your will not the other party's true self interest. the last time I check, women do not think like men. Also would say that some people like myself immediately build a wall of distrust around salesmen tactics which some PUA consider effective, only effective with the dumber/less experienced crowed I suppose.
EROS love is about YOUR WILL and YOUR DESIRE. A*L*W*A*Y*S.

you do not get into it FOR THEIR GOOD or FOR THEIR SAKE. you're looking to get what YOU want.

PERIOD. eros love is the only entirely ENTIRELY selfish love there is. if she gets something out of it, that's a nice fringe benefit but it is not your goal - and you know, it is never HER goal. you think she's gonna fvck you to get you over a rough patch? hahaha....

finally, i used to DETEST salesman and sales tactics. to a certain extent, this loathing is the thing that still keeps me from being more effective than i am...

GENTLEMAN, we are SALESMAN... it is all about sales. LADIES, you are all about sales... that's what the lipstick and pushup bras and high heels are for....

leave altruism at the door - we are unequivocally SELLING. make no mistake.

delta
 
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