"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The Best Post Ever Made on SoSuave

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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That was quite entertaining to read and yes a very good post. Remided me of some shyt I did with a women that was initially attracted to me. Man the more you push the more they pull!!! I learned my lesson the hard way just like ole RICHARD did. RICHARD has a very good friend that broke it down so he could understand.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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right... it's in "the art of seduction" too by robert green

in seduction, you appeal to their SELF INTEREST... you DO NOT appeal to their PITY or obligation. you want them to want you for themselves, not feel like they OWE YOU something.

it's a tough thing to get right though... in some ways, we're SUPPOSED to think of ourselves more than the women we woo and in other ways, that gets us shot dead in the water....

but i guess the essence is that we're salesman and the product is us.

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holy crap, thanks for that, this girl i been workin on lately, i know how much she loves watching the show "scrubs" and also how much she loves adventure and how she's never been surfing.

This was last week when we met.....today i was just chatting away, talkin about watchin tv, then because i'd read this post, i brought up how awesome it would be to spend an entire day in bed with somebody just watchin scrubs, eatin pizza n icecream and makin woopee (mallrats reference = sex) then kept goin on about how good holidays are. She didn't say anything in reply to it but i got instant extra body language attention and her interest levels have definitely spiked, the funny thing was i did love what i said i loved, i just didn't think to say it.

Seems like if you portray yourself as the type of guy she'd be into, she'll be into you, well this girl should be into me because she likes what i like, so it's not me pandering to her wants, it's us fitting eachothers wants perfectly

very thought provoking stuff, ta again
 

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Delta said:
right... it's in "the art of seduction" too by robert green

in seduction, you appeal to their SELF INTEREST... you DO NOT appeal to their PITY or obligation. you want them to want you for themselves, not feel like they OWE YOU something.

it's a tough thing to get right though... in some ways, we're SUPPOSED to think of ourselves more than the women we woo and in other ways, that gets us shot dead in the water....

but i guess the essence is that we're salesman and the product is us.

delta
Appealing to self interest, being like a salesman.. you're thinking like a man persuading another man to do something based on your will not the other party's true self interest. the last time I check, women do not think like men. Also would say that some people like myself immediately build a wall of distrust around salesmen tactics which some PUA consider effective, only effective with the dumber/less experienced crowed I suppose.
 

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I'm rebumping this so the dozen or more dumb posts which have almost nothing to do with dating women issues in general are bogging the whole forum down.

DeepBlue is worthy of the DJBible, The DJB needs to be updated, despite most of the content still being relevant to this day there has been some new insightful posts from other users.
 

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Hitman10000 said:
I'm rebumping this so the dozen or more dumb posts which have almost nothing to do with dating women issues in general are bogging the whole forum down.

DeepBlue is worthy of the DJBible, The DJB needs to be updated, despite most of the content still being relevant to this day there has been some new insightful posts from other users.
Too true, I keep my own compendium of really great posts ^^ really, who needs 6 posts on kino? Overkill. How about two words: use it.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Hitman10000 said:
DeepBlue is worthy of the DJBible, The DJB needs to be updated, despite most of the content still being relevant to this day there has been some new insightful posts from other users.
As someone who was around when the largest number of posts were added to the Bible, I can tell you the Bible is constituted of mainly two types of posts...

1) Posts that are inspiring, and fit more into the "feel good" category than the deep-digging posts like this one that really get to the heart of the issues.

2) Posts that were written with the specific goal of making it to the Bible. Of the posts by me that are in the Bible (under my old screen name), one of them was such a post and I know others did the same.
 

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Appealing to self interest, being like a salesman.. you're thinking like a man persuading another man to do something based on your will not the other party's true self interest. the last time I check, women do not think like men. Also would say that some people like myself immediately build a wall of distrust around salesmen tactics which some PUA consider effective, only effective with the dumber/less experienced crowed I suppose.

This is the best thread I have ever read here. How do you do this though? Lets say you know a girl who thinks you're "awesome" and have an "awesome" or funny personality... how do you sell this? How do you turn that into, you should go out with me because I am awesome?
 

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Hitman10000 said:
Appealing to self interest, being like a salesman.. you're thinking like a man persuading another man to do something based on your will not the other party's true self interest. the last time I check, women do not think like men. Also would say that some people like myself immediately build a wall of distrust around salesmen tactics which some PUA consider effective, only effective with the dumber/less experienced crowed I suppose.
EROS love is about YOUR WILL and YOUR DESIRE. A*L*W*A*Y*S.

you do not get into it FOR THEIR GOOD or FOR THEIR SAKE. you're looking to get what YOU want.

PERIOD. eros love is the only entirely ENTIRELY selfish love there is. if she gets something out of it, that's a nice fringe benefit but it is not your goal - and you know, it is never HER goal. you think she's gonna fvck you to get you over a rough patch? hahaha....

finally, i used to DETEST salesman and sales tactics. to a certain extent, this loathing is the thing that still keeps me from being more effective than i am...

GENTLEMAN, we are SALESMAN... it is all about sales. LADIES, you are all about sales... that's what the lipstick and pushup bras and high heels are for....

leave altruism at the door - we are unequivocally SELLING. make no mistake.

delta
 
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