"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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the average guy finding himself digging a chick too much

dannowillbookem

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my useless blithering:

i kno i kno its not supposed to be like this...i shouldnt care what she says or does. but man shes like whoa! a hb 10 and a personality 10!

i've been pulling c&f on her but its hard to know when to move it up to the next level, you know? i've never really made the switch from a play/conquest to an actual girlfriend. usually i conquer then get tired and toss them...but wow, something about this girl is different.

for one thing, shes probably out of my league in technical terms. of course i'm so damn ****y i kno i could get pamela anderson. but this chick is more real...like what if i mess up? i get nervous around her and like do idiotic then like mispronounce her name. serioiusly, that hasnt happened to me since i found this website. i have doubts that i can get her to like me, and i'm questioning all i know about getting girls. i need advice. i need to know

1. how to get over being nervous about this certain girl
2. how to get her to know i like her without actually telling her
3. how to move it past my common conquest to a ltr.

usually i mack on younger girls (dont get me wrong i can get a girl my grade and older even, but its just more work for something i'll toss in two weeks anyways so i dont) and i dont know if i can take this chick.

please help.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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TheCalmGuy

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Man you need to chill, relax! shes just a little girl, from your post I think you're putting her on a pedestal you should stop that. Anyway I think you should relax and show lots of confidence when you're around her and dont overdo the ****y part because you're going to seem like an arrogant prick, trust me it happened to me . Dont act goofy just to make her laugh, dont try too hard to make her like you be yourself and relax, thats my 2 cents. :cool:
 

Javelin44

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no such thing as a HB10. there's always better. if she's that good, buy her a ring with all your money and ask her to marry you. because you don't want to lose her now do you? personality 10? if you know her well enough to know her personality, you can ask her out. that being said, talk to her and stop being so uptight
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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