"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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The Average American Woman

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On another post (locked) the topic of a girl's height and weight came up. I didn't get a chance to repost before it got locked...

BUT

Most readers thought a girl 5'11" 120lbs were impossible. YES it is very much hard to imagine that in America you can find a 5'11" weighing 120lbs.

BUT

According to these sources (Sources: Crowther et al., 1992; Fairburn et al., 1993; Gordon, 1990; Hoek, 1995; Shisslak et al., 1995., US Department of Health and Human Services, HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report 1998, Treatment Advocacy Center, 1999, Smolak, 1996., Mellin et al., 1991., Collins, 1991., Shisslak & Crago, 1995.)

The average weight of an American woman model is 5'11" 117lbs.

NOW before you say anything remember that is the average...so that means you have 6'0" models that weigh less and 5'10" models that weigh more. And this doesn’t include all the girls with model bodies and haggard faces.

BUT

The average American woman is 5' 4" 140lbs....

Though; you do have to wonder why somebody would say the weight of a girl. That info is more guarded than her bank account #.


Just thought I would throw that out... last half hour of work (you know how it is).
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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American women are fat Slobs / Blobs / Globs!!!
 

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The average American woman weighs ~ 2.2lbs per inch.
 

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What matters is her measurements, is she close to a 36C 22 36 and close to 5'6 or not. Models tend to be too skin for my taste.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Numbers are meaningless. It's about being proportionate. I know some girls that look sickly at less than 140, and I know others that look fat at 120.
 

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zerocelcius said:
The average American woman is 5' 4" 140lbs....
Sadly, I think even that stat is outdated.
USA: Over the ten year period (1991 to 2001), the average American woman's weight increased 11 pounds (7 %), while her height has remained about the same (an increase of 0.1 inch or 0.2% taller). Ten years ago, she weighed 152 pounds (69 kg / 10 st 12 lb) at a height of 5' 3.7" (162 cm). Now, it's 163 pounds (74 kg / 11 st 9 lb) and 5' 3.8" (162 cm).
Now compare that to Finnish women - who average only 88 lbs at about the same height!

Uh, something is really wrong when the average US woman is 7" shorter than me, yet weighs MORE than me! :eek:
 

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Yes I read about the 163 lb at 5' 4" average somewhere on the net too.
 

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zerocelcius said:
...According to these sources (Sources: Crowther et al., 1992; Fairburn et al., 1993; Gordon, 1990; Hoek, 1995; Shisslak et al., 1995., US Department of Health and Human Services, HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report 1998, Treatment Advocacy Center, 1999, Smolak, 1996., Mellin et al., 1991., Collins, 1991., Shisslak & Crago, 1995.)...
You have to understand when these studies were performed. Typically a thorough study last at least seven years. In your examples, the samples would have been gathered during the 1980's and back then, those statistics were definitely true.

If you look at at the long term data collected by the Center of Disease Control you can see the growth of obesity (haha) from the 90's until now. http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/maps/obesity_trends_2006.pdf

Just look around you too. Two out of three people you see on the street is overweight, I'm not talking about BMI ratings either. Note how many average people have a waist size of 35" or larger, those are the ones who are considered overweight or at least at greater risk of coronary disease due to their size.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Just look around you too. Two out of three people you see on the street is overweight, I'm not talking about BMI ratings either. Note how many average people have a waist size of 35" or larger, those are the ones who are considered overweight or at least at greater risk of coronary disease due to their size.
I don't get it, I'm a 35" waist and I weigh 150 at 5'9" with a 5.1% body fat percentage. Does that mean that I am fat?

I noticed that people in general are getting more and more overweight (and that ain't muscle mass that they are carrying around either) and everyone blames everyone else but themselves as well.

Put the blame whereit belongs. Yourself. My girlfriend is a bit overweight, but is exercising and everything to lose it. At least, she is trying and succeeding.

comic_relief
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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comic_relief said:
I don't get it, I'm a 35" waist and I weigh 150 at 5'9" with a 5.1% body fat percentage. Does that mean that I am fat?
No, you're not fat. Men are naturally heavier than women (higher muscle mass, more upper body strength, etc.) For example, my 5'4" man is 130lbs, whereas I am 5'8" and 115lbs.
 

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Uh, something is really wrong when the average US woman is 7" shorter than me, yet weighs MORE than me!
If you weigh less than 140 than you have issues as well dude. Put some meat on yer bones.



You guys find girls who are a little bit chubby disgusting... Well, you'll find out in life that girls find guys who are skinny, disgusting.
 

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comic_relief said:
I don't get it, I'm a 35" waist and I weigh 150 at 5'9" with a 5.1% body fat percentage. Does that mean that I am fat?
I'd double check those numbers. I'm 5'11 and weigh 160lbs, 7% bf and I only have a 32" waist. If you have a 35" while being shorter, lighter and less bf, something is definitely a bit off.
 

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Now, it's 163 pounds and 5' 3.8"

When I see an add or myspace page that lists body type as 'average,' now I know to expect 160 pounds.

Some women can carry 150 pounds or so, and still look pretty good. My last gf was I think 5'7" and 155 or so. She looked like the St Pauli beer girl, a big strapping blonde, but not fat. I also knew a cheerleader in hs who was 155, five-six or so, and pretty hot. She was all muscle. These are the exceptions, though. Most women do not carry weight well, and practically every American girl is either overweight, or if she is young, on her way to being overweight.
 

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girl_in_a_boy_forum said:
No, you're not fat. Men are naturally heavier than women (higher muscle mass, more upper body strength, etc.) For example, my 5'4" man is 130lbs, whereas I am 5'8" and 115lbs.
A 35" waist, isn't that a women's size 18 or 20? That's not a petite woman! :nono: Besides, we aren't talking about chest or upper body mass, we're talking about the circumference around the waist.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I'd double check those numbers. I'm 5'11 and weigh 160lbs, 7% bf and I only have a 32" waist. If you have a 35" while being shorter, lighter and less bf, something is definitely a bit off.
just rechecked it and it is a 34 to be loose on me and 32 to fit snuggly.

comic_relief
 

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Wow you guys are small. I'm 6,6 225 and I feel small.
 

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comic_relief said:
just rechecked it and it is a 34 to be loose on me and 32 to fit snuggly.

comic_relief
See, you kids and your droopy drawers... :moon:
 

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American/British women are getting fatter at a quicker rate than the men, that's why it's so hard to get a slim girl, they're getting more rare.
 

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NickSCFC2000 said:
American/British women are getting fatter at a quicker rate than the men, that's why it's so hard to get a slim girl, they're getting more rare.
This is why I keep my eye out for women who are year long athletes (runners, swimmers, cyclist) or women that regularly teach fitness classes (aerobics, spinning, yoga, pilates). If you don't have a problem with their choice of diet (organic, vegan, vegetarian) you can typically have a winner on your hands. :up:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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