"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The arrival of St. Valentines

Diaoz

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Right, so what's the DJ way to celebrate Valentines?

Of course we shouldn't be wussy and try to buy a girl by showering her with expensive gifts, top restaurant, huge bouquet of flowers(which is uber expensive on the day anyway).

But...face it, it's a great day to score points if done right. Girls do like to show off what their guy did.

So, let's spark a discussion on how to make the day great without being a 'nice' wuss.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Avsguy01

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I dont think there is anything wrong with being a nice wuss, for just this day. If you have a girl treat her good! Thats the point of Valentines day. Oh, just remember to give her some great sex too!
 

Jay-X

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i don't give a damn sh1t if i'll be a wuss... yesterday my girlfriend told me she's really upset, since she thinks i don't show her my love, because i never give her gifts or surprises... i think i'm going to school 2 days before (st. valentine happens on monday) and puttin' a set of flowers on her desk. then, after school i'm going to meet her and give her a chocolates' box. finally, i'm bringin' her out for dinner and givin' her a ring... it's the first ring i'm going to buy for a girlfriend, any ideas on how much i'm going to spend?! consider that we've been steady for 7 months, but we're only teenagers... how much do u think?
 

Panda 2000

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I don't buy all that valentines crap.
 

Julian

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who cares about valentines the only thing i care about is 50 cents new album valentines day massacre AND THATS ALL!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Giovanni Casanova

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Originally posted by Phoenix_of_the_ashes
They should make a valentines day for men.
They do. Superbowl Sunday.
 
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