The absolute insanity of what's happening in the world right now

[Bandolero]

There's a reason some people are leaders and some are followers. Eye is a follower, so goes the route of "love and peace." He or she can never make the tough decisions cause they run on flowers and rainbows.

I don't think so . He is just to far away

"Boundaries" around Russia are fine. He's in another country's boundary now.



I look at it like this: If my neighbors start stockpiling weapons, sure, I'll be vigilant and probably stockpile my own. That doesn't make me right if I break into their place and start killing them. Also doesn't make them an "aggressor." That's my take, anyway.

Or to use your analogy, the guy who throws the first punch is who starts it.

NATO is the aggressor by… not attacking Russia?

Right.



Not smart. The consequences of throwing the first punch are- assault charges, losing the fight outright, or picking a losing / fatal fight (your opponent has concealed weapons).

Men, there is a reason why influence, competence, discernment, and self-control are masculine traits. More so than chest thumping.

Is also the aggressor by expanding to another global power,
in terms of recruiting smaller countries and putting missiles there "pointing" towards Russia .

Putin is the aggressor, by throwing the first .

 

[Bandolero]

NATO is the aggressor by… not attacking Russia?

Right.



Not smart. The consequences of throwing the first punch are- assault charges, losing the fight outright, or picking a losing / fatal fight (your opponent has concealed weapons).

Men, there is a reason why influence, competence, discernment, and self-control are masculine traits. More so than chest thumping.

Is the west passive aggressive?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Is the west passive aggressive?

You have a fixation with “the West.”

 

[Zimbabwe]

Hows the Ruble doing?

The America dollar is about to fall hard after Saudi Arabia adopts the Yuan, karma is coming for America.

Hopefully with America gone we won't have to deal with all the stupid woke nonsense that came from there.

Zelensky is also looking to negotiate with Russia and drop his ambition to join Nato. Looks like it's another loss for America lol.

 

[Bandolero]

"Boundaries" around Russia are fine. He's in another country's boundary now.



I look at it like this: If my neighbors start stockpiling weapons, sure, I'll be vigilant and probably stockpile my own. That doesn't make me right if I break into their place and start killing them. Also doesn't make them an "aggressor." That's my take, anyway.

Or to use your analogy, the guy who throws the first punch is who starts it.

Sam it is easy to play out scenarios in our heads if we are far away from the situation.

If confronted , most likely you are going to act differently . We are instinctive .

 

[Bandolero]

Missiles silos have always been a point of contention. It's brinksmanship. Kennedy and Khruschev almost wiped out the planet playing war games in the 60s. Ronald Reagan had a professed hatred of nuclear weapons, yet still went on a building frenzy in the 80s to wear down the "Evil Empire."

Fair point, to what extent should a country be surrounded by weapons. However I don't think that's why Comrade Vlad went into Ukraine. Ukraine is energy-rich. All wars are about resources. We need more open trade, and fewer nutcases and corporate oligarchs running things, IMO.

We need young leaders .
The longer you are in this positions the more corrupted you become .
Mfs lived till their 70 and plus and considering throwing our live away , because they can't agree on a goddamn thing.

 

[Bandolero]

Perhaps. But part of evolution and masculinity is keeping your wits about you.

Then I am lacking. I am very simple in this case.
Maybe that's one of the reasons I can relate to Putin .
I can understand the territorial behavior.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Being territorial is a good behavior. I don't know why we're even arguing this.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Agreed. Good for Ukraine for defending its territory against an invasion.

Ukraine was invaded a long time ago.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Fair point, to what extent should a country be surrounded by weapons. However I don't think that's why Comrade Vlad went into Ukraine. Ukraine is energy-rich. All wars are about resources. We need more open trade, and fewer nutcases and corporate oligarchs running things, IMO.

Ukraine it's NOT energy rich. It's a net importer of energy resources. They have been getting Russian oil and gas at huge discounts for two decades. It's an "inconvenient" fact that is largely being ignored because it doesn't fit the "Russia bad" narrative, but Russia has been subsidizing the Ukrainian economy for a very long time. The conflict is Ukraine is not nearly as one-sided and black and white as the media would have you believe. It's a result of geopolitical developments that go back years or even decades.

 

[Bokanovsky]

So let's hear the other side of the story. Why did Russia feel justified to launch an invasion?

In a word: NATO.

This is a pretty good explanation of what led to the Russia-Ukraine war.

Just before Russian invasion, University of Chicago political scientist John J. Mearsheimer blamed West for Ukraine crisis

Clashes in Kyiv in 2014 led to the ouster of Ukraine's pro-Russian president, sowing the seeds for the 2022 Russian invasion of the country.

www.straight.com

 

[BackInTheGame78]

How many countries should we give to Putin?

Based on how poorly his forces have performed in Ukraine and the ineptitude of their strategy, Putin should just be happy with getting out of there with a win and not worrying about attacking vastly more competent forces like the US.

That win is going to be far more costly than he ever imagined, both in terms of economic costs due to sanctions and via allowing the rest of the world to see how incompetent Russian military commanders are.

 

[Bandolero]

Based on how poorly his forces have performed in Ukraine and the ineptitude of their strategy, Putin should just be happy with getting out of there with a win and not worrying about attacking vastly more competent forces like the US.

That win is going to be far more costly than he ever imagined, both in terms of economic costs due to sanctions and via allowing the rest of the world to see how incompetent Russian military commanders are.

I think it's more than clear ,that a war between any superpower would not be conventional.

Better Equipment,better forces and more soldiers don't mean much in this nuclear world .

 

[Von]

Because Ukraine chose the West, they deserve to be invaded? Insane.

Ukraine didnt chose the West... The West chose Ukraine.

Russian are 22% of the Ukraine pop
East of Ukraine is Russian populated and want dictatorship.
West of Ukraine is Ukrainian populated, with people supporting démocraty and nazi group (which are part of the gouvernement, they were sheltered in the 1950 in the USA to avoid Soviet assasination).

Crimea is Russian populated and has the Black Sea Russian fleet Naval base) which Russia lost direct land access due To Ukraine indépendance.

Crimea and part of Ukraine voted for indépendance and join Russia in 2014s, Ukraine army Attacked them and committed Génocides.

Today, Russian armies are applying the Ukrainian méthode to ukrainiens.

In 1994, Germany was allowed réunification in promise NATO would NEVER extend to Russia (Thus Ukraine).

In 2008, Georgia and Ukraine were invited To NATO.

European Union rejected Ukraine application for being corrupted-refusing To fight oligarchie and nazi groups. Russia sent à counter-offer.


Btw, remember Georgia where after a Coup-Detat the new PM was George w Bush best friend?

Following Georgia annexation, George W Bush friend is governor of odessa and paid 300 000$ US dollars to promote the American way of life in Ukraine.

Thé USA policies has been coup-d'etat To promote liberalism and bring ressources back home.

Thé military budget never went away after the SovietUnion collapse.

Russia has been a dictatorship for 500 years, and its leader Saïd: Lèave us alone.

Putin applies 20th century politics strategies: Buffer zone and réalism.

Putin Attack Ukraine? Yen, hé did order it..but the USA sure pushed him in the back.

So, what Will happen? Russia Will take the Russian land, push for a pipeline, and nato Will cercle the Kremlin more.

After all in 2008, USA did put nukes in poland.

Remove them, remove NATO and Russia Will pull back exactly like they pulled their Nuke out of Cuba after the USA removed their Nuke from Turkey (USA putted their Nukes first, starting the events of the cuban crisis)

Usa poke, Russia answer. Its 70years of history

 

[Zimbabwe]

Based on how poorly his forces have performed in Ukraine and the ineptitude of their strategy, Putin should just be happy with getting out of there with a win and not worrying about attacking vastly more competent forces like the US.

That win is going to be far more costly than he ever imagined, both in terms of economic costs due to sanctions and via allowing the rest of the world to see how incompetent Russian military commanders are.

What source do you have for this? You realise they banned all Russian media and have been using a massive amount of anti russian propoganda. Remember the Ghost of Kiev myth? Or the whole snake island thing which turned out to be false with none of them being killed?

The reality is, Russia is actually winning the war and Ukraine is ready to negotiate for peace.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The reality is, Russia is actually winning the war and Ukraine is ready to negotiate for peace.

Cool. Russia invaded a weaker country, caused a ton of senseless deaths, burned bridges with the entire developed world, and wrecked their own economy to do so. Congratulations.

 

[Von]

What source do you have for this? You realise they banned all Russian media and have been using a massive amount of anti russian propoganda. Remember the Ghost of Kiev myth? Or the whole snake island thing which turned out to be false with none of them being killed?

The reality is, Russia is actually winning the war and Ukraine is ready to negotiate for peace.

Russians never send their réal army in thé first place.

They sent recruits and conscript there To gain expérience and be used as a buffer in case NATO Attack.

Thé réal Russian army is in Russia on guard To counter-attack any NATO invasion.

Btw, i was surprised To find out Russia was 2nd exporter of Oil To thé USA right after Canada

 

[AureliusMaximus]

All I know is that there is two sides of a story and I'm not taking any sides because both are shiete.
Sleepy Joe is a warhawk too for example: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bidens-hawkish-record_b_214873 find more yourself here if you like: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=biden+warhawk&t=brave&ia=web and Vladimir Putana is real a$$hat too.

They are both playing the "world game of chess" in the big league and we are the pawns that suffer for their "fun game" of playing with tin soldiers.

Cui bono?

 

[EyeBRollin]

All I know is that there is two sides of a story and I'm not taking any sides because both are shiete.
Sleepy Joe is a warhawk too for example: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bidens-hawkish-record_b_214873 find more yourself here if you like: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=biden+warhawk&t=brave&ia=web and Vladimir Putana is real a$$hat too.

How is Sleepy Joe responsible for Russia invading Ukraine?

 

[Zimbabwe]

Cool. Russia invaded a weaker country, caused a ton of senseless deaths, burned bridges with the entire developed world, and wrecked their own economy to do so. Congratulations.

Didn't america go into trillions of debt for invading iraq and afghanistan?