"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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So, I ran across this site when looking for a way to get out of the “Friend Zone”. I must say the advice has proven to be impeccable so far… although I haven’t made it to the end zone yet, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

There is the hot little Latina at work that I have been flirting with for a WHILE now… the biggest mistake I made was to let us become friends.

I am a huge flirt. They call me trouble at work and HR has jokingly said they have a hands off approach to me…. I am mostly harmless, but just fell for this one chica… she is from Mexico and just the hottest little thing…

I was reading the article titled Escaping the Friend Zone by Mr. Fingers and I kicked myself repeatedly. Everything made sense… I was doing it all wrong... My focus was on her (borderline obsessive). I would break dates with other women just for an opportunity to be with her. Turned down very potential a55 for fear that she would find out and think I was a jerk. I made my feeling known to her… I made All of the Classic mistakes. I was a total TOOL! She would always say she wanted to hook up, but never panned out.

That was then… in three short weeks I have turned the tide and have her chasing me … somewhat… I have rekindled some of my old flames… one in her dept. the greatest story was I went to the Tattoo parlor with a “friend” of mine who wanted to get a cover-up… I love hanging at the tattoo parlor. There are such interesting and fun people there. I had mentioned to the chica that I had enjoyed hanging out there, but did not tell her the reason I was there. Of course my “friend” had to show off her new tat… and jealousy followed… got to love it.

The last thing that happen is that she went to Mexico last week and said “Be sure and Text me. I will be very busy, but would like to hear from you…” No Problem baby! I initiated ZERO text… I even ignored more than half of the ones she sent… I was reading a post somewhere on here about and they said that they gave her the gift of missing them. Well, that’s exactly what im did . and what did I get for my inconsideration??? When she seen me this morn, she ran to me with arm out and I got one of the best hugs I had gotten from her.

Because of this site, I am getting what I want and giving her what she needs. Man, where have you guys been all my life???
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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DJDavo said:
So, I ran across this site when looking for a way to get out of the “Friend Zone”. I must say the advice has proven to be impeccable so far… although I haven’t made it to the end zone yet, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

There is the hot little Latina at work that I have been flirting with for a WHILE now… the biggest mistake I made was to let us become friends.

I am a huge flirt. They call me trouble at work and HR has jokingly said they have a hands off approach to me…. I am mostly harmless, but just fell for this one chica… she is from Mexico and just the hottest little thing…

I was reading the article titled Escaping the Friend Zone by Mr. Fingers and I kicked myself repeatedly. Everything made sense… I was doing it all wrong... My focus was on her (borderline obsessive). I would break dates with other women just for an opportunity to be with her. Turned down very potential a55 for fear that she would find out and think I was a jerk. I made my feeling known to her… I made All of the Classic mistakes. I was a total TOOL! She would always say she wanted to hook up, but never panned out.

That was then… in three short weeks I have turned the tide and have her chasing me … somewhat… I have rekindled some of my old flames… one in her dept. the greatest story was I went to the Tattoo parlor with a “friend” of mine who wanted to get a cover-up… I love hanging at the tattoo parlor. There are such interesting and fun people there. I had mentioned to the chica that I had enjoyed hanging out there, but did not tell her the reason I was there. Of course my “friend” had to show off her new tat… and jealousy followed… got to love it.

The last thing that happen is that she went to Mexico last week and said “Be sure and Text me. I will be very busy, but would like to hear from you…” No Problem baby! I initiated ZERO text… I even ignored more than half of the ones she sent… I was reading a post somewhere on here about and they said that they gave her the gift of missing them. Well, that’s exactly what im did . and what did I get for my inconsideration??? When she seen me this morn, she ran to me with arm out and I got one of the best hugs I had gotten from her.

Because of this site, I am getting what I want and giving her what she needs. Man, where have you guys been all my life???
Let her flirt. Next time you see her, you just take her out on a date.
 

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DJDavo said:
Man, where have you guys been all my life???
Craploads of us we're trying to use friendship to get s3x - and found out it just wasn't worth it - even at your stage (Hint: it's just oneitis causing men to become emotional and act like women which is what she wanted after your initial contact where you didn't escalate and risk being rejected).

Now 'bout that hug... :)
 

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The following is a text conversation I had with this girl earlier today.... Not real sure what she means by "bring her a toy" but... looks like my studying is paying off... HeHeHe....

Me: What is ur record number of orgasms in a session

Her: 3... why

Me: Just wondering.... So do u giv up, or ur man?

Her: The idiot could not put up. I was really into it. Why??????

Me: Just curios... My goal is to giv my girl a grand slam b4 I get mine

Her: Yeah i hate it when he finished befor. I really like it when a man pleases a waman before him

Me: U kno what I mean by grand slam? Woman pleased times 4.

Her: What????? Oh please whatever

Me: Ok. But I'm not joking.

Her: So i heard you ask alma and malissa the same thing. Who bet the record??

Me: Um... Malissa.. But yall havn't been with me yet.

Her: whatever

Her: I am gonna have to ask malissa how in the hell she did that..... I think i have the wrong sexual desires.

Me: Maybe....

Her: Like?????
Her: Lol.... You knoow what i have to see that to believe it

Me: U know u have the open invitation. But we will need time

Her: U r making gme horny..... REALLY HORNY!!!!!!

Me: DAMN!!!! why can't I do that when I can do something about it....

Her: Time maybe... Dont know.

Me: Yeah, yeah, yeah....

Her: Ok..... One sturday in the morning.

Me: I'm in

Her: Ok.. But u gonna have to bring me a toy.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yeah, I know what a toy is, but i just dont know why she would want me to bring one. but, whatever... I dont think i will be bringing a toy. she will be too busy for that.

so, we are going to lunch today..... but i will be out of town for the next two weeks.... and advice on how to keep her interest with out getting all needy? I definitely dont want to come off desperate and Im not desperate, but i do want it... and i dont want to deprive her the gift of missing me.

Oh, and I found out the HR chick may have the hots for me... which is kind of weird.. she is like a goody two shoe type and married. nice body tho. I think for once in her life she wants to be bad. Oh well, I wont be spending any energy on that one but it is a nice ego boost.
 

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lol... dude you seem to be gaming a lot of women at your work. this could be a very very bad thing. Especially the girl in HR. Women are vindictive and generally very emotional. word to the wise.

Also, I rarely set goals with women when it comes to sex or brag about what i'm capable of... that just raises expectations and increases pressure to perform. just tell her you love women and your goal is to give her pleasure....
 

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Game.r, you’re probably right on all accounts. I usually dont set the expectation, but i know the background one this particular girl (Been in the friend zone WAY too long) ... im pretty confident that i can rise to the occasion. she really needs a good bang…. I have a feeling I can get her to the promise land before I ever get willy wet. But if I fall, I will let you know.

HR chick is out of the question... Not NO, but HELL NO. she is WAY too unstable. the other two that i speak of only one i boned we are totally cool. the rest... its just a flirting game... My company is not the most PC place and i have pissed a few of them off, but they always come back after not talking to me for a while and tell me how much they miss me... Im not a player… more of a clown… but it only takes one chick to get the wrong idea, right?

Any case, Im not giving up on this one,,, I have Too much invested.
 

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Hehe... so I asked her why she wanted me to bring a toy.

Me: what did you mean by bring a toy?

Her: I still want to place my order for my...

Her: if you know wha ti mean

(I have a PO box and she wants to use it so it doesn't go to her house)

Me: Yeah.

Her: well.........i know you said you want to see me using it

Me: OOoohhh.....

Me: Yeah.. there will have to be a toy.

Her: good

Boys, I think im in for a good time with this one. :cool:
 

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Oh Yeah, the chick in HR is wigging out cause i wont add her as a friend on FB. that is one dangerous chick.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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