"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MikeEdward1973

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Sorry for the flurry of threads, but I just found this board, and I have all these questions I'm trying to get out of my system.

Do you guys use text-messaging as a follow-up after a 1st date (I'm all about improving my game during and after 1st dates). Or does it not matter how you follow up, since if they're interested, they'll pretty much respond to anything?

right now, I call 2-3 days later, leave a message, and then if I don't hear anything, I'll shoot them a text.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Texting is for girls. It is best avoided. I will tolerate receiving a booty call text, but I will not text a girl first, or engage in a text convo. Texting is not the type of dominant guy behavior that women find attractive.
 

MikeEdward1973

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Bible_Belt said:
Texting is for girls. It is best avoided. I will tolerate receiving a booty call text, but I will not text a girl first, or engage in a text convo. Texting is not the type of dominant guy behavior that women find attractive.
Ok, I will take that to heart. And to think that I was thinking about getting a T-Mobile Sidekick since it's so good for texting. :yes:
 

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MikeEdward1973 said:
Ok, I will take that to heart. And to think that I was thinking about getting a T-Mobile Sidekick since it's so good for texting. :yes:
I think that you can actually use those things to make phone calls too! :yes:
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I think that you can actually use those things to make phone calls too! :yes:
Yeah, but my current phone already does that. Which I'll be using for phone calls, not texting. Since I hear that's how the natives used to do it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ok, I see what you mean. You are right that I was not considering the perspective of hearing-impaired people. If texting works for you, then I am all for it. But I still say to keep it at an absolute minimum, and as you say, not do it to make conversation. Most guys will text because they are scared of calling.

fwiw, I about to call a girl right now, and it would be a lot easier to just send her a text, but I'm not going to take the easy way out. Most guys use texting as a crutch and a way to protect themselves from rejection.
 

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Not sure how it's generally regarded but the girl I'm seeing, whom I never text unless it's some smutty innuendo designed to make her moist, says that she likes how I just call her when I want to speak to her, and that it's very confident. I never call her twice and if she doesn't answer, I sometimes leave a voicemail and sometimes don't. As a result she now always answers her phone, since I call rarely. Texts are useful, but if it's practical/possible to call, it's far better to call IMO.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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mintxx said:
Not sure how it's generally regarded but the girl I'm seeing, whom I never text unless it's some smutty innuendo designed to make her moist, says that she likes how I just call her when I want to speak to her, and that it's very confident. I never call her twice and if she doesn't answer, I sometimes leave a voicemail and sometimes don't. As a result she now always answers her phone, since I call rarely. Texts are useful, but if it's practical/possible to call, it's far better to call IMO.

D I T T O !!!!!!!!!!!!

Excatly my use and thoughts on this...
 

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Text messaging is not all that bad. It is best to text message when you first receive the number of a girl, particular at the club.
 

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i use texting when i dont want to talk about silly random ****. like hearing about her day or any of that side chatter that comes with talking to a female for more than 30 seconds on a personal matter. i odnt think it is wuss move unless you are using it for wuss reasons. maybe some of you macho men want to hear about whether she didnt know whether to wear her blue sweater or it just wasnt that cold so she could get by with a light jacket...
 

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Texting is simply another means of communication.

Just the same as you wouldn't use a screwdriver to drive a nail, you don't use texting for "conversations".

Don't you just love these chicks who buy these phones that are basically text machines?

I was dating this chick for awhile and she would have these play by play text convos with her friend. I'm talking start at 8, end at 1am. That's ridiculous.

But a quick text here and there, no big deal. Matter of fact, it can be a time saver.
 

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Treat texting like email. Write properly, have a point to it, and keep it short and sweet. Use it for what it is: short thoughts/messages. The AFC comment would be more to anyone over-using it...on the same girl...and still not getting her digits!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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