"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Texting is horrible. Text as little as possible

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Texting is helping ruin dating. No one benefits from it in the long term. Females end up making even more horrible man choices because of texting. They disqualify great guys because of texting. Here is a list of the disadvantages.


Females:
1.) They can be even more passive aggressive over text than they already are.

2.) They often read too much into a particular text message and imagine things that you didnt mean. Women obsess over texts messages. Trust me on this. Its like " omg, why did he put a coma there. What is he trying to say. Eww". Some small punctuation or oddity in the way you texted something will make her react in a negative way. This is 100% true. I have seen it with my own eyes. I used to hang around females when they were getting texts from guys.

3.) They can play mind games by not texting back. As we all know women are not physically aggressive. They are mentally aggressive. They use mind games. They are masters of it. Texting is the perfect medium for that. They often purposely dont return text in order to test a guy.

4.) Texting is perfect for people that have very little social skills. If you cant hold a real conversation, texting is perfect for you.

Men:

1.) Texting allows her to ignore her true feelings for you. I often have sex with women who in person cant hide their attraction for me. They are very touchy in person and we get physical. But trying to set up a meeting with them through text is very difficult. They will ignore or play hard to get over text. It will come to the point where you wonder if she even likes you. Then you see her in person and then her true feelings come out. Its because over text she can create a barrier between your attractiveness.

2.) You increase the probability that you will say something stupid or something that you texted will misread.

3.) Its just not manly
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I agree we should take days off in between, but if you know what you are doing, you can have a girl gushing with just a few texts.

I'll text my model (after 10 days of MIA): "I have your next assignment planned" and she will reply "I am SO excited!". The key is to make them think about great times with you, and then disappear. You need to learn how to quit when you are ahead.
 

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Sometimes I want to grab coworker's cellphone and throw it out the window, I'm trying to get some work and the constant ring tone it makes when a text comes in is distracting. Anyone else agrees?
The other day I found myself crossing the street with a group of four young men (no homo). All of them were looking at their smart phones.
 

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Not over texting relates to "Mix Pleasure and Pain" from Art of Seduction.

 

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The other day I found myself crossing the street with a group of four young men (no homo). All of them were looking at their smart phones.
I saw it in the gym... Guy wasting over 1/2 of his time peeping at his phone. It's the greatest attention killer, so I leave it in the car. I also leave it in the car going into a nice dinner, unless my kids are not with their mother.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Pandora- what if I said you could have girls fuhk you upon first meeting if you built enough attraction during texting? Would you still say texting is horrible and should not be used?
 

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I'm old, so take that into consideration, but I generally hate text. I used to like it and you can use it to your advantage but mostly it's a bunch of noise that doesn't provide me any real value.
 

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Pandora- what if I said you could have girls fuhk you upon first meeting if you built enough attraction during texting? Would you still say texting is horrible and should not be used?
I would say teach me how to do that lol. Im sure its possible but it is a skill that most men dont have including myself. Mind to share?
 

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I almost feel with the younger girls, a little more texting is necessary to build attraction. Although maybe these are just not good women.

I could be completely wrong though...
 

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Set the precedence right away. Don't text them beyond settings up the date.

Set the date and don't reply to anything further. They will learn they need to communicate with you either by voice or in person.

You lead. They follow.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Pandora- what if I said you could have girls fuhk you upon first meeting if you built enough attraction during texting? Would you still say texting is horrible and should not be used?
Building attraction with texting over time is like catching lightning in a bottle. One in a million.

The other 999,999 you will drive their interest down and be ignored.
 

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I agree we should take days off in between, but if you know what you are doing, you can have a girl gushing with just a few texts.

I'll text my model (after 10 days of MIA): "I have your next assignment planned" and she will reply "I am SO excited!". The key is to make them think about great times with you, and then disappear. You need to learn how to quit when you are ahead.
I actually found for me personally, I had far fewer flakes and far less "ghosting" with women who I invested a little time texting prior to our first meet up instead of just setting up the date and going ghost...

In fact almost none of the women who I did that with flaked...I'm not talking about 24/7 texting...maybe 5-6 texts throughout the day for a day or two...also found that not going ghost until the date actually worked more in my favor than against it as well...

Think it's time we take a hard look at some of the "truths" everyone espouses and realize that things are far more fluent than we'd like them to be and that texting, especially if you have some skill with it, is highly beneficial to your game and actually getting her to meet with you.
 

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I actually found for me personally, I had far fewer flakes and far less "ghosting" with women who I invested a little time texting prior to our first meet up instead of just setting up the date and going ghost...

In fact almost none of the women who I did that with flaked...I'm not talking about 24/7 texting...maybe 5-6 texts throughout the day for a day or two...also found that not going ghost until the date actually worked more in my favor than against it as well...

Think it's time we take a hard look at some of the "truths" everyone espouses and realize that things are far more fluent than we'd like them to be and that texting, especially if you have some skill with it, is highly beneficial to your game and actually getting her to meet with you.
Some of the women get really entertained with texting. The convo's have a lot of slang and teasing and stuff in it. Not my forte. I'd rather her long to hear my voice.
 

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Pandora- what if I said you could have girls fuhk you upon first meeting if you built enough attraction during texting? Would you still say texting is horrible and should not be used?
I used to think like this. But it is a bit of a red herring as most of these girls would have fvcked on the first date anyway.

On a cost benefit time efficiency basis texting should be predominantly used for initial fluff conversation and setting up dates...at least until you've banged.
 

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You just suck at texting. Texting is now a MUST. It's become a staple in modern day communication. There are ways to text without facing negatives. Chicks are not going to meet up with you unless your form a basic level of comfort through text.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I still have my whole text conversation with my current girl, now over 230 texts in exactly 10 weeks. I was just reading the early days from September/October. The second text I sent was asking to see her again and by only the fourth text we realized (after getting together and kissing) that we already had met 9 months earlier.

Once we connected, once I made a date (for one week in advance), she opened up and we had some very important, meaningful conversations that week (she sent a record 71 texts that week). She's a great writer which to me is essential for me to fall in love with a girl these days.

There were some key moments when she hadn't replied to my last 2 texts and I had to triple text. In all three of those cases I asked her out in my third text and she accepted. I think she was mainly avoiding small talk and wanted me to cut to the chase.

Women associate their phones with romances so you need to text her enough that she thinks of you when she gets a message. You want her to be hoping it's from you, not dreading it's from you.

The longest I went without hearing from her was 13 days (that was her double texting, or texting on both ends of that absence). She later said "I will not chase a man no matter what" and I realized she was miffed by my waiting her out and forcing her hand.

The longest we went without seeing each other (since August, or 15 weeks) was 3 weeks, including before I had her phone number. 3-4 weeks is said to be the most you can miss someone before you start to forget them.

She initiates about twice a week on average, and we text every other day on average. She sends about 24 texts per week. Last week she sent 40 texts in one day, most of them during her Uber ride to see me, before having 5 orgasms. Those were both records.
 

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Texting is a tricky one... I am in the camp that believes a bit more texting before a date may be important to build rapport. Nothing crazy, but small chit chat here and there, especially if she initiates it. After a date or secks, It is safe to assume texting will increase...
 

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Note: I NEVER initiate text the day of the date. No reminders. No confirmations. You make the date, set the time and place at least 1 day in advance, and force them to text first the day of the date. Also, I NEVER text first after the date. I force them to text a thank-you before I write to them again.
 
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