"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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texting before the next date?

thebiglimp

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ok apologies for making a series thread relating to my ongoing situation. here's my question- how often to text the girl after the second date has been set? i'm unsure because one, the exact day has not been specified, and two, i'm probably sidelined for my neediness.

the next date has been 'promised' as the following exchange will show.

after agreeing upon the details of the date
me: let me know what day works for you.
her: sure i'll let you know. you're free most of the nights?
me: yes, fortunately. (we're both freelancers)
her: cool, i'll let you know.
me/her: good night.

so how long should i wait till i text her about the date. or to text her at all about anything?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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No such thing is promised there, just an initial agreement that can lead to anything good or bad. Text whenever you want for a specific date..with time and a place convenient for you.. keep the texting short and dont engage even if she does it. If she is realky interested she will agree or counteroffer right away.
 

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well the agreement was that she first suggested couple places for meet, ending with 'any ideas?'. i countered with another one and was met with enthusiastic yes, let's do that. that's when i asked for the best day. so the specific event and place has already been set. it's the lack of 'when' that makes it uncertain for me.
 

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thebiglimp said:
me: let me know what day works for you.
her: sure i'll let you know. you're free most of the nights?
me: yes, fortunately.
__________

NEVER do this. Set a day and time. If she can't do that and doesn't give give a day and time alternate, back off.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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thebiglimp

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so what should i do next? text her couple days later setting up the time?
 

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Tictac said:
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NEVER do this. Set a day and time. If she can't do that and doesn't give give a day and time alternate, back off.
What this guy said, ask for the DAY and TIME.
 

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Agree this is a definite no no. Don't use the words "let me know". EVER.

Those are words women use for flaking. Instead of putting a pen1s into her mouth, you are putting flaking words in her mouth.

Just arrange a date. Simple as "what's your schedule like this week?".

Given the above just go no contact until she contacts you, assuming she does.

Just play it better next time. Lesson learnt. :up:
 

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LMFAO said:
Agree this is a definite no no. Don't use the words "let me know". EVER.

Those are words women use for flaking. Instead of putting a pen1s into her mouth, you are putting flaking words in her mouth.

Just arrange a date. Simple as "what's your schedule like this week?".

Given the above just go no contact until she contacts you, assuming she does.

Just play it better next time. Lesson learnt. :up:

I prefer giving the day and time and then let her counter offer in case she can't go instead of asking "what's your schedule this week", imo asking this makes you look too available.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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When a woman gets in touch I assume she wants to see me and ask when she's free. This forces her to open up her availability to you and tell you when she has no plans - if she flakes or makes excuses later on to cancel, you can weigh this against what she said was her availability and you'll know whether she was bullsh1tting you.

Why asking when she's free works so well is it's a double-edged sword. Either:

1. If she gets in touch and you ask her when she's free and she's really interested, she'll let you know her true availability and you'll have no trouble

OR

2. If she's playing games and gets in touch, you asking her when she's free is a clever bluff, because it forces her to begin getting off the fence - if you try to make a date and she backs away, then you shrug it off and take it as having called her bluff - whatever

I live by two rules - feel free to hold women accountable to what they say, BUT judge them by their actions, not their words.

According to the text exchange, she said she'd let you know her availability. So you back off until she does. If she gets in touch with you eventually about something else, you immediately redirect the conversation without answering any of her questions and hold her to her word, "So did you figure out your schedule? When are you free?"

This communicates that you'll give her her freedom, but you're holding her to her word. She's got the text conversation in her phone, so she'll be able to see the previous exchange and know that you're not giving her any wiggle room. She has to know that her very next communication with you has to go to making the date you tried to make, and if not, she can fvck right off. You're a man of action, and she can't be wasting your time.
 

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another thing is, the first meeting was for hookup which i was too drunk to initiate, even when she let it be known plainly that she wanted to go to the second base that night, and as a hookup. (man, i was hammered... i don't even remember how i walked out of the bar)

even on planning for the second meet, she let it be known clearly that she was not ready for dating, thus making this another hookup.

so there's no emotional involvement in her part. does that change the rules a bit? should i be more assertive in this case? i'm thinking of just texting her tonite with a suggestion for a day when to meet.
 

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If the interest is there, don't shoot yourself in the foot.

I use the one strike rule for new women. One flake means deletion from all platforms. Blurs get the same treatment. Actions speak louder than words. Words don't mean sh*t.

Only use the phone to arrange a date. Even after the conversation, don't hold your breath. I show that I mean business, I ain't here to be your f**kin' orbiter or female friend.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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If you want it to work, curb your enthusiasm.

You should have something else going for you other than a girl. Now is the time to focus on something for you.

Let her take the amount of time she needs to get back to you. Let yourself enjoy life as each moment pass. Your enjoyment of life is not tied to her response.

Once again

LMFAO said:
Do not contact her.
 

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ok ok fine. i wanna understand the mentality of why girls can be so leisurely, tho. with us guys (the ones i know at least, including me) it's always go go go. but girls know to stop. how do they do that?!

granted the girl is way better lookin than me with a bigger selection, but still.
 

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Our primary urge is to Attack. Initiate. Action.

Their primary urge is to be taken, consumed, enjoyed.

They've been conscious of the dating dynamics way before us and I figured out girls haven acted in similar ways with different dudes make her almost pro at the time she's dealing with you.

Now that you're a DJ, you have to sensibly align yourself to be in a position for self respect.

You'd do the above (Action, Initiate) however she also has to do the above (Reflect she wants to be enjoyed). You cannot make your move and make her move for her, she has to make her move herself :yes:

You wont die if she doesn't respond. She knows that however she wants to know if you know that.
 

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so it could be a deliberate waiting game?

jeesus it's suppose to be a hookup!

thanks for the insight, btw.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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