"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Text game with a 19 year old HB9 citique request and field report submission

Caravaggio

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So when I was closing work last Saturday Afternoon, I had the entertaining fortune of meeting this girl who had missed office hours by five minutes. After a meet and greet I got her to come over to my pad for a tarot reading.

A couple beers later and with a bit of persistence she was jerking me and I was choking her as I bit her nipples..... And then tried to avoid slut status by taking my number and ducking out with the agreement that we'd see each other on Tuesday night. Complete with kinky texts for the rest of Saturday.

I went back to my life and started receiving texts from her on Monday when she knew we would both be at school. We met at the student center and chatted briefly and made physical contact but I avoided the kiss she was looking for as I personally find PDA unnecessary, which I've always noticed does a number on their hamster wheel anyways.

Later that night I get a text from her asking some logistical questions about getting her ID back as she had left it at my work that afternoon. Essentially she was hoping I could hold it for her till after she got off work.

Since I work for the government I knew protocol wouldn't allow this unless she posed as my girlfriend. AND SH#T GOT INTERESTING. I've done my best to faithfully re-post these texts as I wanna know what the **** just happened.

So here goes:

Her: But you aren't! You make this sound so complicated

Me: No, Im not your boyfriend. Itd probably work tho

Her: Haha you think?

Me: Sure. Supervisor and I are tight. If you knew to talk to her it would be credible enough to skirt protocol

Her: Ok. But are you sure you'll hold it for me even if I tell you there's no way I'm having sex with you tommorow?

Me: Please I'm more worried youll be some clingy stalker. I offered you an option

Her: No. I wont be.

Me: You know what my intentions are

Her: What

Me: Must I spell it out?

Her: Sex

Me: Is how relationships start

Her: Ya, but I just know I won't do it tomorrow. So Im telling you now so you still can get some birthday sex elsewhere

Me: Calling me a player?

Her: Ya well you did try very hard the first night I met you

Me: And if I can get that far with you... who else do I do this to, right?

And thats it for the night. The next eveing it's my Birthday and I'm bored and miffed cause I planned to destroy a freshman, (a personal for my college slucket list,) so I try a different angle.

Me: So, shall we just hang out?

Her: You still want to?

Me: I dig your personality, we could take things slower. As long as I'm not being strung along I'm cool with it

(Then she wrote me this essay: sorry for the lengthiness but here is where I'm really asking for an analysis.)

Her: Ya I dig yours too. And I enjoyed hanging out with you very much. But even tho I'm single, there is someone I've started things with and I am seeing so I don't exactly want to string along either of you. They don't live here but I still feel like I need to not be such a bad girl like I was on Saturday. Even tho I desperately want to you to **** me, I probably shouldn't go there.

Her: But! I for sure would want to hang out. Happy Birthday btw

Me: Suit yourself. If you carried yourself like you were in a relationship I wouldn't have even made a move. Friends with romantic interests is a game, and you know it. I decline

Her: I'm not, but alright. I respect that.

Me: My point exactly

Her: What is your point?

Me: Your not taken and its your call

Her: I have jest been declined lol and I guess I won the bet

(we made a kink wager based on who would win the election)

Me: Its a shame too cause I was wondering what twisted deed you were going to demand

Her: Hmm too bad I suppose. I doubt it was a twisted a yours though

Me: I planned to override yours anyways. Make you scream to the gods of sex for every wet minute of it.

Her: That frustrates me.

Me: Like I said its your call

Her: Hmm well as long as you're not bothered by me not having an orgasm. I've never had one during sex

Me: Thats a shame I'll see what I can do

Her: Nah I'm ok with it. Ive tried everything lol

Me: Not me

Her: True. But there's no much else I could try

Me: Fine I guess Ill just choke you. Come over

Her: I'm in bed. Thats very tempting tho

Me: Its alright you can use mine

Her: Why you wait so long?! I'm going to bed now

Me: Whatever, get over here

Thats the end of it. No she didn't come over. I've been busy and I got plans for some of this weekend so I haven't tried to re-engage.

This was a strange one. I normally pick up 23-26 year olds and I'm 29, and I've never dealt with this. I wager its because of her age and SMV.

In retrospect I probably could've pushed her to come over sooner and still hit it.

I don't feel like I conceded my frame here but I obviously didn't get laid.

Any advice on how to restart this in a few days?

Critique in general?

I thought about opening with arsehole game, but it wouldn't be congruent with this pick up.

Any advice is welcome!

-Caravaggio
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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GhengisT

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Quoting one of Anti-Dump's rules:

You are 2nd to nobody, except yourself. If a woman has somebody else that she's prioritizing above you, NEXT her.
 

Caravaggio

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WOW is this site truly full of social troglodytes and trolls?

I'm looking for some serious input here.
 

marmel75

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Congrats, you are her new play toy...don't tell them, show then.

Remember, the prey of the best predators never see them coming until its too late...
 

Kbomb

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Your text game was off and you came off as try hard and outcome dependent.

Its salvageable if you start not caring and being a little lighter.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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In general I like the wit in your texts but I gotta agree with maramel. Stuff like "it's your call..." and then later "like I said it's your call" seem very transparent to me. You're trying to tell her you're indifferent but if you truly were you just wouldn't have responded at all. Instead you keep repeating it, hoping for a better response.

Oh, and I wouldn't have asked "are you calling me a player?"

I'll leave how to reengage for someone else.
 

Caravaggio

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Excellent Gentlemen, thank you!



Agreed I let the power shift on this. I let our good time,her age and looks influence my indifference.

I feel my first mistake was offering to help her with recovering her ID. Although its a nice gesture, shes a big girl. With only 4 hours a actual rapport I really just lined up like a chump to be whooped.

Second was the player line for sure, the other response that came to mind was "why are you on the rag?" but I felt it was too extreme.

On the second night I feel that I could've cut out at her expressing her frustration and the game would have rolled through to another day.

But I pushed the sale too hard, yes?

And I see what you guys are saying about "its your call" line.

It felt like the perfect **** test storm

Thanks Men!

Have I missed anything here?

How do I reengage while being aloof?

By communicating with her I'm still showing an interest, how do I show an indifference in this circumstance?
 

Skalioppe

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I think your text game was off, I would have been far more sexual after milking her with some innuendo tennis, super confidence and humour - Lethal ****tail. I'd also be framing more and telling her what she's going to do rather than ask her. My field experience has verified this works over and over. Once you've broken the ice and can text her sexual comments, you go thermo-nuclear on the sext escalation, in my experience the more graphic the better they respond. Even prudish women love it.

Your situation right now is she's playing you. When she said she has another guy I would've said "Look, I don't give a sh1t about this other boy, we both know you want to play with a real man, so get your arse over here." type stuff. It's ****y, it negs the competition and her for liking him and Alpha-rizes you.

My advice, go reactionary. Don't initiate, sit back, she'll probably text you as she likes you orbiting and flirting. When she does, get some sexting going, call her out as a c0ck tease, and challenge her with some false disqualifiers and "you couldn't handle me" dares. I reckon you could bang her in a week, if you play the game correctly.
 
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