"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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text for a lunch date?

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I recently met this girl through school. It was orientation week and I saw her at a few parties. She chatted me up for a little bit the first time. Second time, we didn't talk much, but I did dance with her for a few songs that night. I was weaving in and out of different groups showing my mad dancing skills. Third night I saw her, I managed to pull her from her friends and got a few more dances. I numbered closed as I took her back to her friends.

It has been about a week and I was thinking about asking her for a lunch date by texting her. I have talked to some buddies of mine with mixed advice. Some say text, others say call her, and even others say "run into her."

What do you guys think I should do?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Marmanalade said:
I recently met this girl through school. It was orientation week and I saw her at a few parties. She chatted me up for a little bit the first time. Second time, we didn't talk much, but I did dance with her for a few songs that night. I was weaving in and out of different groups showing my mad dancing skills. Third night I saw her, I managed to pull her from her friends and got a few more dances. I numbered closed as I took her back to her friends.

It has been about a week and I was thinking about asking her for a lunch date by texting her. I have talked to some buddies of mine with mixed advice. Some say text, others say call her, and even others say "run into her."

What do you guys think I should do?
Welcome to the forums!

Once you've been around here a while you'll learn that for various reasons its better to call than to text. If you're nervous about calling, which is fine, heres a basic guideline that should be able to make your call go smoothly.

1. The call itself should be quick, no more than 3 minutes, so give yourself an time constraint to avoid any dillydallying. Do it while you're walking to the gym or something, so you can close with a "ok well I'm actually walking toward the gym right now so I gtg" or some such. It gives you a way to end the conversation
3. The easiest date-set-up call format is the following:
- calmly say hi and tell her who you are and where you met as she doesn't have your contact saved yet, and ask her how she is doing or what she's up to.
- with her answer try to give relateable feedback. (her: "Oh i just came back from picking up my textbooks" you: "for what classes?" her: "blah blah" you: "I was thinking about taking that, i heard the prof is hard though, you hear anything?" etc.)
- Once that little convo piece has run through just ask her to something she could ACCOMPANY you to i.e. you would do it even if she wasn't going along. (in your case it would be "so next week I am checking out all the dining halls on campus. You down to try so-and-so on tuesday at lunch with me?")
-secure the date and get out of there (see part 1.)

Thats pretty much it. After that its up to you to use your charms :) Remember short convo, 2-3 mins tops.
 

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Marmanalade said:
What do you guys think I should do?
Read the DJ Bible. The Game by Neil Strauss and The Mystery Method, by Mystery.
 

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Real Talk gave some good advice, internalize it.

Something everybody overlooked, however, is what you're actually planning to do with this girl...that is, lunch.

Honestly, you're generally going to want to avoid lunch dates...don't get me wrong, they CAN work out well, but when you think about it, it's not really the ideal situation...you're most likely going to go into interview mode (so what's your major, where are you from, how many siblings do you have, etc) which is just boring, there are no kino opportunities, the awkward situation of who pays comes up...you get the idea.

Much better to suggest grabbing some coffee...and then get it to go! Take a little walk with her, that way the conversation could flow better (you can constantly find something to say with your changing surroundings), you CAN and MUST have some kino/physical escalation, and there is a better possibility of some isolation. Work her over with your charm, and then on the next meet up you can have her alone win your room ;)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Thanks for the advice. I went with the phone call, I was a bit nervous. I need to work on my phone game. Anyways, I manage to get a lunch date on Monday right before my exam.


ARrocket, I understand what you are saying, but it is a quick lunch (less than an hour.) We have to walk to the place anyway and I can work in some kino there and on the way back. I don't even know her that well, maybe 5 minutes of convo max so far. I laid some heavy kino as we were dancing/grinding. Grabbing her hand and leading her on and off the dance floor, hands on the hips, and quick goodbye hug (can't hang around too long and look needy.)
 
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