"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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We have all heard how women test because it's neccessary. Well guys, it's gotten the same for us. Is there a list? Or if not, we should use this thread.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I reckon tests we run are more individualistic.

Example of what I do:

I will ask them what they do in there spare time and then branch off to if they go to lots of parties and act like I don't mind and see if they drink.. If i hear lots of parties and alcohol.. Only will use the girl no chance of LTR.
 

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d9930380 said:
We have all heard how women test because it's neccessary. Well guys, it's gotten the same for us. Is there a list? Or if not, we should use this thread.
What do you do to qualify your women?
 

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Yes but a girl can lie just like a guy can.

I was thinking more of tests the way girls do.

But yea - all those questions are good examples to screen with.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yes but a girl can lie just like a guy can.

I was thinking more of tests the way girls do.
You mean play games?
 

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Qualification is all the testing you need, if she is attracted to you she is going to try and say what you want to hear when qualifying her. Another great one that I seen my lesbo friend do is TD's Elastic snapback effect she did it naturally though and the effect was great.
 

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Exactly. You need to put her in a situation where you can judge by her actions and not her words what her intentions are.

I suppose I don't have any specific ones because I don't know what kind of girl I'm looking for, just what I'm not looking for :)

I do remember using them in the past but they're very specific.
 

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Remember that late night talk show with Craig Kilborn? (the show sucked, I know)

He would play this game called "5 questions" where he'd ask five totally random questions to his guest.

Well I came up with five totally random questions of my own that I sometimes ask chicks I meet. I picked questions that reveal their personality and help me qualify them as a possible LTR or not. They think it is just a cute game - they have know idea they are telling me deep things about they peceive the world.

Example: I would ask, "What is your dream job?" , "If you could travel anywhere in the world for free, where would you go?" , "Would you rather live in the mountains or on the beach?" , "Where do you shop for clothes?" , "What is your favorite shot at a bar?"
 

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I suppose I don't have any specific ones because I don't know what kind of girl I'm looking for, just what I'm not looking for :)
Don't laugh, that could be the very thing that's slowing you down. Only knowing what you don't like will keep you on the look out for those very things. If you have no idea what qualities you do like, how will you know if you come across a woman with those traits? Who's to say that you haven't already met one but you were so focused on her faults that you overlooked the good traits which may have outweighed the bad ones.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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if you have the correct mindset, and ur not doing anything AFC; you'll automatically pass her tests.

if you're secure in who you are; you wont have any problem disagreeing with something she says, or sharing something you like that she doesnt like, or vice versa.

and if you believe you're the prize, and just try to have a conversation without any concious thought about tests (yours or hers), and always subtly convey that you hold yourself in very high regard; she'll automatically qualify herself to you.
 

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Distant Light said:
Qualification is all the testing you need, if she is attracted to you she is going to try and say what you want to hear when qualifying her. Another great one that I seen my lesbo friend do is TD's Elastic snapback effect she did it naturally though and the effect was great.
From what I see around me there is a much higher percentage of woman who live exciting and adventurous lives compared with men, not only is this true, but also 70% of the guys only desire to be with the top 30% of the hottest girls, I don't think that the HB7-8-9-10's need any particular guy to make their lives better, they have many options if you think about it. :D
 

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Sh!t.

Whatever happened to 'Never listen to what a b!tch says, but what she does'?

I never ask qualifying question to b!tches, but rather put them in situations where they have to qualify trough their actions.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Tests basically revolve around being able to read body language. 99% of the time this will tell you everything you need to know although some girls are easier to read than others. If a girl gives closed body language don't give up hope as this may mean she is nervous rather than not interested.
 

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Talking about sh*t tests they pull on us? These are tests that I use on women. Pretty much what they use on us:

1) Change plans at the last minute. Whatever she wants to do, tell her you'd rather do something else.
2) Flake. Call her (new girl) 20 minutes after you were supposed to show and say something came up. I usually tell her I'll make it up to her. Sometimes do, sometimes don't
3) Find out her opinion on something, give opposite viewpoint & then watch to see if she rationalizes or changes her opinion to match mine.
4) Flirt with other women. See if she gets uptight or stays cool.
Expect special treatment. See if she is willing to do things for you.

I pretty much use those. Not all with the same girl and not all in a short period of time.
 

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I qualify through conversation. For a long term relationship, I find out indirectly if they would be responsive to my sort of off the wall humor, active lifestyle, and intelligence. Do they like working out? who knows...ask them what they do in their free time. Do they like going out? ask them what they did with friends on the weekend. Simple open ended questions can answer alot if they are the right questions asked at the right time.
 

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I think Francisco d'Anconia hit something on the head.
The necessity to know what exactly your looking for in a chick.

Maybe once you figure that out... the elements of how to test for such qualities will just come to you naturally.

Example...
I like open-minded chicks. So I'll often tell a little story, a dream, or some wile abstract idea/perspective, and then ask her a question about how she feels about it. Anything to get a take on her. Naturally whatever response she gives to such a scenario is going to express how open her mind is to such "openess"... lol

Another good thing I like about chicks is generosity.
I like a generous chick. So simple things, as in... does she offer me sh!t. A drink, a ride, a call to go to a party, a massage, anything. I'll just be looking for this quality in her behaivor.

So back to the point... fig. out what you like and want in a girl, and I think many of the perfect "sh!t tests" will come to you naturally.

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