“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Because these are benefits other men are getting.
By that token, you should want to earn a higher salary because that is a benefit other men are getting. A penny earned is a penny paid for by your woman. I will earn enough extra that:

A) I don't need to have women pay me, nor do I consider it a benefit.
B) I have enough to cover dinner and not feel like I'm sacrificing anything.

Tonight I took a 24 year old beauty to dinner. She didn't pay for a thing, and her lips tasted amazing as we said goodnight. I had never kissed her before.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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By that token, you should want to earn a higher salary because that is a benefit other men are getting. A penny earned is a penny paid for by your woman. I will earn enough extra that:

A) I don't need to have women pay me, nor do I consider it a benefit.
B) I have enough to cover dinner and not feel like I'm sacrificing anything.

Tonight I took a 24 year old beauty to dinner. She didn't pay for a thing, and her lips tasted amazing as we said goodnight. I had never kissed her before.
She must have been impressed when you told her you make 750k a year, never lost a fight, beat everyone at pool, only date 21 year old top of the line strippers that all tell you they love you, you look like Russell Crow and 5 time super bowl winner Tom Brady and knew which day five years ago she skipped taking a shower even before you paid for dinner and her months rent.
 

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By that token, you should want to earn a higher salary because that is a benefit other men are getting. A penny earned is a penny paid for by your woman. I will earn enough extra that:

A) I don't need to have women pay me, nor do I consider it a benefit.
B) I have enough to cover dinner and not feel like I'm sacrificing anything.

Tonight I took a 24 year old beauty to dinner. She didn't pay for a thing, and her lips tasted amazing as we said goodnight. I had never kissed her before.
- I make good money number one.

- Number two, if that were RAY RAY and POOKIE, then SHE would have took them out to dinner and fvcked them raw afterwards.
 

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- I make good money number one.

- Number two, if that were RAY RAY and POOKIE, then SHE would have took them out to dinner and fvcked them raw afterwards.
You're worshipping men now?

You're assuming she would have borrowed the money (her bar stiffed her on her pay this week)?

She is 22 years my junior, and one of the only non-strippers I know who is hot enough to make strippers jealous. And she said she wants me to take her to the strip club on our next date.
 

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The scathing salt of the beta-male. You are reminded that there is an ignore button to use.

Infact, I believe you to be merely trolling. Venting butt-hurt. No interest in challenge. No interest in progression. Wanting to hold others back. A very toxic guy, with a very big mouth. Your recent spam threads suggest as much:

  • "Worst advice you've received from DJ's" - Merely an excuse to make the point that he despises plate spinning, and plate spinners. A simple neg and re-frame, from a man necessitating a very weak sexual strategy.
  • "What is a bad boy, anyway?" - Another Pometkin village, created to devalue his betters and console himself. Should just use ice-cream and rom-coms like the other fat women.
  • "Building a harem" - Where he tries to rationalize sexual variety as a bad thing lol. Again, no real counterpoint. Vacuous discussion.
  • "Why are DJ's so angry" - A disingenuous look at the natural disillusionment involved with actively gaming women (which I strongly doubt he is doing, or knows the first thing about). Again, no worthwhile discussion. No take-aways.
One of the worst posters that I've seen on here. Down in the depths with "Christopher Colombus", and next on the ignore list with the other overly cheeky sexual-market rejects after I give a brief chance to respond.

Just awful lol.
Take your own advice and use that ignore button. Then again you seem more interested in following my threads than going out and doing your own advice of spam approaching so you'll probably ignore your own ignoring advice.
 

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we need to START requiring more
I agree with this sentiment. When you have higher personal standards, you get higher quality.

They are getting:

- Free Rent
- Free Food
- Free Clothes
- Free Shelter
- Get To Sit Around Playing XBox All Day While She Works
I don't buy in to this. At the risk of sounding like a strong independent black woman, I don't neeeed no woman to do nuthin' for me. Being a lazy-a$$ bum who relies on some dumb, zero-self-esteem broad to provide everything for him is not a man. He's a mama's boy.

This is precisely where the general human condition is at right now; do nothing, get everything. I can't even have jealousy leveled at me, because I have been kept by women before and it's tantamount auto-castration.

I pity people like this for their lack of self respect and what little value they place on their own existence. Existence, in fact, is wasted on people who adopt this philosophy.
 

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Tenacity, I knew a guy named Pookie in my college town. He was a local and actually didn't go to school there but hung out everywhere. He was a street dude and always got into fights with people at the school. He was undefeated too. He had like 9 baby mamas and was in and out of jail. He would also always be in the gym playing ball.

I used to screw some of his baby mamas because they were light skin. They would tell me how he smashed them and just bounced and not be a father to their kids. I'd come in smash the shorties for a couple weeks then ignore those chicks.

I just LOL because me and him both like the yellow girls. He just got a few before I got my hands on them. He also had the name Pookie tatted on his neck. Not the guy you would want to mess with. There was times on he basketball court I wanted to fvck him up but you really just can't mess with locals. They will really kill you... They have nothing to lose.
 

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Ouch, cut me and I bleed lol.

All salt, no meat. Sums you up nicely.

And though it can be amusing when a puke tries to boss the frame, I'll have to give it a miss.

Yes, you are ignored. And, I suggest you just do the same to the likes of me and others - rather than keep making thread after thread after thread.
You must have short term memory loss since you replied out of the blue to my post not the other way around.

Instead of following my threads, worrying about what I do or who I respond to and others, reading chat he artists, etc. implement your own advice. log off and spam approach chicks irl.

"Boss the frame" lol. Online no less. lol
 

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I completely disagree.

Never do anything in this game out of spite. That is pathetic behaviour. It's regressive.

I once read something really good regarding this on the Chateau. I strongly suggest you read it too.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/caring-vs-uncaring-*******ry/

Edit: The link isn't working due to use of the banned term "a**holery".

Search "Heartiste uncaring a**holery"



New girls with interest suppose that.

As for that plate, she is a 5 - and you are a 6 or 7. The probability of her wanting a serious relationship with you is high. Don't then come back here saying how she is the "1% quality unicorn" like the average idiot.

She is a single-mother. That immediately disqualifies her from any serious consideration.

If you are going to pump and dump, I urge you to wear a condom. The sexual market difference is too much here, and she could well try it on really early. Use a condom, and then flush it in some toilet paper. Such is getting the notch lol. Don't say that you weren't warned.
Oh shyt! Deesade is backkkk lol
 

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You never say anything of any value. Quite the opposite.

You never dealt with my post in any meaningful way, which Is what I expected. As I said, all salt and no meat.

The amount of text-game that I've dealt with from women far better at playing games than you will ever be, don't think that you are fooling anyone worth a damn with your feebleness.

Those that enjoy your gimmick: direct DLV for the other sad-acts.



Yeah. Spam chicks on a day for myself lol. Clearly a man that never understood the emotional investment in opening women.



The frame exists everywhere.

You should know. Don't you online date? And you've made about 55 threads here pushing yours.

Why such investment in lowering the value in others? Answer with sincerity, not salt.
You worry about chicks playing text games? lol. I dont.

Frames also exist in cartoons with cartoon characters like the one you've created for yourself online. You operate in a frame. I operate per situation with common sense the way I want.

old is been there done that.

I don't get emotionally invested in opening chicks. I treat them like anyone else.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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More deflection. I fully expect you to use equivalency next as your position. It's like talking to a plate.

Man up, own your sh*t, and look to advance/progress from that position.

But, as you aren't a plate, and I don't want to fvck you, I'm not going to deal with your bullsh*t further. This discussion must come to an end.
Make sure you hold the frame, keep your word and remember to use your ignore button son.
 

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Tenacity, I like that you gotten to the point in your "game," that you flake on women. Such is the nature of abundance. Though, the key is not to flake on women out of spite, but rather from a place of abundance, after considering your limited time and myriad options for a specific night.

Also, I would encourage you to schedule double-headers with two girls at the same place, day, and time-- and enjoy the fireworks. :D This is the quickest way to truly appreciate/understand your value.
 

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Also, I would encourage you to schedule double-headers with two girls at the same place, day, and time-- and enjoy the fireworks. :D This is the quickest way to truly appreciate/understand your value.
That is mean spirited and validation seeking, IMO.
 

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That is mean spirited and validation seeking, IMO.
Sounds like something a dysfunctional teen girl would do. Attempt to have two boys fight over her to feel good about herself because everyone "likes" her and there are more boys she "deserves" anyway.

reeks of insecurity and immaturity. This is the level of some grown men's "game".
 

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That is mean spirited and validation seeking, IMO.
How so?

1) Were there a formal agreement of an exclusive date, I would agree. Why the need for knee-jerk conformity to social expectations of what a date should comprise?

2) What exactly is mean spirited about double headers?

3) How do double headers automatically equate to validation seeking without a request or closer inspection of the intent?

Let's explore some of these assumptions you opine.
 

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3) How do double headers automatically equate to validation seeking without a request or closer inspection of the intent?
It's simple courtesy. If you set up a meeting with her understanding that there was going to be a party of people there, that's one thing. But you were the one who said to "enjoy the fireworks", so that infers there is some deception going on. And since you said this was the quickest way to appreciate and understand your value, I would say that is validation seeking by definition.

Would you appreciate it if a girl invited you to dinner on what you understood to be some sort of "romantic" encounter, only to find she had brought some other guy there who was also interested in her? Have girls done this sort of thing? Yes. Does that make it right? No. Would SoSuave tell the guy to "next" the chick who did this? Yes. Bad form is bad form.
 

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Double booking is what you do when you are highly likely to be flaked on. That is not a good attitude to have when dating. You have to take your share of blow offs and be ok with going out alone.
 

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Zekko said:
It's simple courtesy. If you set up a meeting with her understanding that there was going to be a party of people there, that's one thing. But you were the one who said to "enjoy the fireworks", so that infers there is some deception going on.
Sorry my friend, “fireworks” and “deception” are not homogenous terms. You paint them this way due to your current paradigms set forth by a lifetime of indoctrination.

I enjoy beautiful women, not a woman. So, I schedule two dates concurrently as such is my desire. If both dates appear, we all have a great time. By my excluding one of the two girls from a date, and because of my limited time to schedule on different days, I am committing a gross disservice upon one girl by not blessing her with ME? What if this girl truly needed a man like me to bless her with my company, the euphoria of a century? Would I not be committing an abrogation of decency upon her? Zekko, this seems very mean spirited of you.

You were born in the 60s I presume, in an era where one girl and one guy went on one date. You understand that society did not always operate this way. One thousand or so years ago, one man going out with a few women was considered appropriate in many societies. Men also had multiple wives and open mistresses. Accordingly, you opine strictly by today's social indoctrination, further stifling and compromising your own desires in favor of social expectations and constructs. Why? Are you telling me that if society were keen on two girls with one guy dates, you would not schedule double-headers? Oh yes, you a serial monogamist, I forgot. Nonetheless, if you were not, this thinking makes you a social slave, devoid of bonafide authenticity; a traitor to your true self.

Zekko said:
And since you said this was the quickest way to appreciate and understand your value, I would say that is validation seeking by definition.
As much as “the community” would have you erroneously believe that supreme confidence could be mentally contrived, it cannot. Confidence arises from success, and commensurately, supreme confidence arises from supreme success.

Concurrent double headers engender (1) Extreme confidence; (2) Extreme social acuity having you learn to close two women concomitantly. Now you could use your shaming “validation” rebut, but as reality clearly demonstrates, closing two women concurrently will originate more confidence and social acuity than closing one girl alone. There is no substitute for challenge.

I know, I know, we all live in the castle in the sky where ideologies of extreme confidence are born devoid of actual experience and results. But here in the real world, your experiences shape you. You want to teach a young man how to be a great hunter; teach him to hunt lions, not deer.

Zekko said:
Would you appreciate it if a girl invited you to dinner on what you understood to be some sort of "romantic" encounter, only to find she had brought some other guy there who was also interested in her? Have girls done this sort of thing? Yes. Does that make it right? No. Would SoSuave tell the guy to "next" the chick who did this? Yes. Bad form is bad form.
More social indoctrination? Quite surprised here Zekko. Ten years ago, when I was married to social convictions a/k/a a social slave, I would have agreed with you when you say “bad form.” But who gives you the right to define “bad” or “good” form for me or others? Isn’t "bad form" simply what society deems “bad,” and you are likewise parroting your inculcated beliefs under the guise of nobility to shame me into conformity of your indoctrinated social ideals? Would double headers be considered "bad form" one thousand years ago under alternate social constructs?

As to your question: Ten years ago, when I was a mental slave, I would not have appreciated such an act. Today, I would appreciate such an experience. Guys like Tenacity, who have been indoctrinated with social/biblical constructs, would lose all frustrations in life if they truly embraced this transcendence; specifically, expecting nothing, acting fully on his volition, unfettered by social constructs no matter how heretical his desires may appear to you or others.
 
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It felt good to have these chicks pissed off on Valentine's Day lol.

And yes, I do have an abundance mentality. I'm surely at least a 7 and I have no issue bringing chicks in. So it was fun, I honestly have NEVER did anything like that before (flake on a gang of chicks).
 

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4) Its triangulation to purposefully have two women who like you meet, which is a classic narcissist tactic.

https://freefromtoxic.com/2015/05/13/the-4-most-common-narc-sadistic-triangulation-tactics/
Triangulation deals with more relationship type rapports as in "spinning plates." DHV, negs, the takeaway, ghosting, spinning plates could be all classified as Narcissistic, sociopathic traits that some DJs employ--and these men are shamed by society via subversive contrivances to incite conformity, the same manner in which society had tried to shame Trump with labels of "misogyny," "narcissism," and "grandiosity." Your retort is rather unflattering.
I agree its funny if it happens by accident but to do it on purpose...having had it done to myself quite a few times, it was no fun.
I'm not afraid to admit that the second time I employed a concurrent double header, the girl threw a drink in my face. It was part of my growing process, having lacked the social acuity at the time to properly navigate this alternate universe of social abrogation. In hindsight, it was the most rewarding experience I had ventured to engage. For the record, these days, both women enjoy their dates with me, open to second dates if I elect.

Whenever a man is shamed as a social deviant, we must look at the motivation of the shamer. If one has a logical argument, shaming--the rhetoric of pathos a/k/a the emotional argument--would not be necessary.
 
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