Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
From what I've heard yeah, sometimes multiple times.How long before I get banned? Do people get warned before they are banned?
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I studied Pook's every post in 2011. His main theme was screening out the women that are no good. He recommended flaking if necessary, saying never to go out if it's not convenient for you. Everyone should read Pook. There was never another dating coach like Pook that I knew of.This board has definitely changed since 2003. Back in the days we never had any arguments or drama. But the general consensus was that there were quality women. When I read pook's posts about feminism, I thought he was living in some post apocalyptic society. Now I know everything he predicted is true. There is a sense of despair when it comes to the quality of women these days so I empathize with tenacity.
I use to be active on the forum from 2008-2013. Since than it's of and on the quality of posters since 2013 has gone down sharply and in a weird wayThis board has definitely changed since 2003. Back in the days we never had any arguments or drama. But the general consensus was that there were quality women. When I read pook's posts about feminism, I thought he was living in some post apocalyptic society. Now I know everything he predicted is true. There is a sense of despair when it comes to the quality of women these days so I empathize with tenacity.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Absolutely correct, liked. When I was on the forum 12-13 years ago it was guys helping each other out without the vitriol that is now common. Discussions were more substantive, focused upon theory, applications, and the development of excellence. There was a lot of the DJ Bible in discussions.This board has definitely changed since 2003. Back in the days we never had any arguments or drama. But the general consensus was that there were quality women. When I read pook's posts about feminism, I thought he was living in some post apocalyptic society. Now I know everything he predicted is true. There is a sense of despair when it comes to the quality of women these days so I empathize with tenacity.
I think the most logical conclusion to draw is the posts on this forum reflect what is going on in the field and in society.I use to be active on the forum from 2008-2013. Since than it's of and on the quality of posters since 2013 has gone down sharply and in a weird way
all of a sudden these "MGTOW" guys came on the forum, this forum was never meant for mgtow because if you're a man going your own way what's the point of studying seduction?
MGTOW focus to much on female nature and not self improvment i.e. angry mgtow. sandman etc