"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Tenacity Banned??
- Thread starter bigneil
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
blind_one
Master Don Juan
From what I've heard yeah, sometimes multiple times.
Augustus_McCrae
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Sho-No-Luv
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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/please-unban-tenacity.242204/
He was one of my favorites!
Yes, it's only temporary, but its 60 days. Doubt if he'll come back.
I studied Pook's every post in 2011. His main theme was screening out the women that are no good. He recommended flaking if necessary, saying never to go out if it's not convenient for you. Everyone should read Pook. There was never another dating coach like Pook that I knew of.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
I use to be active on the forum from 2008-2013. Since than it's of and on the quality of posters since 2013 has gone down sharply and in a weird way
all of a sudden these "MGTOW" guys came on the forum, this forum was never meant for mgtow because if you're a man going your own way what's the point of studying seduction?
MGTOW focus to much on female nature and not self improvment i.e. angry mgtow. sandman etc
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Absolutely correct, liked. When I was on the forum 12-13 years ago it was guys helping each other out without the vitriol that is now common. Discussions were more substantive, focused upon theory, applications, and the development of excellence. There was a lot of the DJ Bible in discussions.
I think the most logical conclusion to draw is the posts on this forum reflect what is going on in the field and in society.
Clearly the quality of women has degraded even more from 12-13 years ago. These "millennial" c*nts are more dysfunctional and self-centered than their Gen-X sisters. And MAYBE another factor is a lot of guys studied seduction along with self-improvement, self-improvement, self-improvement, up the ying-yang only to realize they were self-improving to appeal to a batch of low quality, chicken-head, shallow, trash women.
I don't regret getting my finances together at all because MONEY is good to have regardless of the market. But self-improvement for the sake of attracting women is not much of a reward if the women are garbage. Men were expecting a pot of gold at the base of the rainbow. They traveled long and far to reach the base of that rainbow only to find a pile of cow turds.
So of course the forum has changed.
