"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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telling her you want more

morepoonplease

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So i've got this fvck buddy.... awesome in the sack, we both agree that its good to keep it where its at, however i feel like i want to start dating this chick, she turns me on so hard, i need this type of thing! is there a way to tell her that i want more than just the sex aspect without ruining what we have?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Then get more..... from someone else.... AT THE SAME TIME you keep fvck buddying her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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morepoonplease said:
So i've got this fvck buddy.... awesome in the sack, we both agree that its good to keep it where its at, however i feel like i want to start dating this chick, she turns me on so hard, i need this type of thing! is there a way to tell her that i want more than just the sex aspect without ruining what we have?

You're having sex with this girl with no strings attached, congratulations. Good work. You currently have something a lot of guys on here would love to have for themselves as well.

As for the actual question, I would attempt to answer it if I felt it wasn't so misguided.

Wanting to date a girl you're already f*cking because "she turns you on so hard" makes no logical sense. Does this girl actually possess any qualities other than having sex appeal? If not, going for a relationship would be an enormous mistake.


Girls who only have huge sex appeal: You only f*ck them. Which is what you're already doing.

Girls with huge sex appeal that are also quality women with great personalities who have something to offer outside of the bedroom: Pursue for a relationship.


What--other than making you horny--makes this girl worthy of being your girlfriend?
 

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don't say or do anything like that. are you nuts? if you give her any suggestion you want more for the relationship she will think you're a ***** and drop you like a bad habit
 

ChalengeGuyFan

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morepoonplease said:
So i've got this fvck buddy.... awesome in the sack, we both agree that its good to keep it where its at, however i feel like i want to start dating this chick, she turns me on so hard, i need this type of thing! is there a way to tell her that i want more than just the sex aspect without ruining what we have?
You HAVE this type of thing! :yes:

And don't you think that the feeling would change if you'd get in a proper relationship?
 

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you have to wait for her to bring it up...other wise shes not thinking it, and you will push her away
 

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There are so many threads about this already! Bottom line is NO do not tell her you want to be more than what you are. Wait for her to bring it up. Case closed.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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909pua

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morepoonplease said:
So i've got this fvck buddy.... awesome in the sack, we both agree that its good to keep it where its at, however i feel like i want to start dating this chick, she turns me on so hard, i need this type of thing! is there a way to tell her that i want more than just the sex aspect without ruining what we have?
Then you are defeating the purpose of joining this forum if you are asking that question.
 

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If you want something more with her, then you need to start dating and fvcking other girls and become somewhat unavailable.

You should be taking full advantage of the situation anyway since she is just a fvck buddy. Honestly, she has to have other qualities to make her worthwhile than just being great in bed.

If you are cool and giving her good sex just watch what happens when you start diverting your attention.

If you ask her for something more, then you are probably not going to have anything with her anymore because she is going to think that you are falling in love with her. Make her fall in love with you and ask you for something more.

Enjoy the fvck buddy relationship for what it is and don't expect anything more. You need to care less than her. So stop caring about her and go out and have some fun and become the best man that you can be.
 
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