"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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telling her you want more

morepoonplease

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So i've got this fvck buddy.... awesome in the sack, we both agree that its good to keep it where its at, however i feel like i want to start dating this chick, she turns me on so hard, i need this type of thing! is there a way to tell her that i want more than just the sex aspect without ruining what we have?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Then get more..... from someone else.... AT THE SAME TIME you keep fvck buddying her.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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morepoonplease said:
So i've got this fvck buddy.... awesome in the sack, we both agree that its good to keep it where its at, however i feel like i want to start dating this chick, she turns me on so hard, i need this type of thing! is there a way to tell her that i want more than just the sex aspect without ruining what we have?

You're having sex with this girl with no strings attached, congratulations. Good work. You currently have something a lot of guys on here would love to have for themselves as well.

As for the actual question, I would attempt to answer it if I felt it wasn't so misguided.

Wanting to date a girl you're already f*cking because "she turns you on so hard" makes no logical sense. Does this girl actually possess any qualities other than having sex appeal? If not, going for a relationship would be an enormous mistake.


Girls who only have huge sex appeal: You only f*ck them. Which is what you're already doing.

Girls with huge sex appeal that are also quality women with great personalities who have something to offer outside of the bedroom: Pursue for a relationship.


What--other than making you horny--makes this girl worthy of being your girlfriend?
 

iliketennis

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don't say or do anything like that. are you nuts? if you give her any suggestion you want more for the relationship she will think you're a ***** and drop you like a bad habit
 

ChalengeGuyFan

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morepoonplease said:
So i've got this fvck buddy.... awesome in the sack, we both agree that its good to keep it where its at, however i feel like i want to start dating this chick, she turns me on so hard, i need this type of thing! is there a way to tell her that i want more than just the sex aspect without ruining what we have?
You HAVE this type of thing! :yes:

And don't you think that the feeling would change if you'd get in a proper relationship?
 

kingsam

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you have to wait for her to bring it up...other wise shes not thinking it, and you will push her away
 

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There are so many threads about this already! Bottom line is NO do not tell her you want to be more than what you are. Wait for her to bring it up. Case closed.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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909pua

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morepoonplease said:
So i've got this fvck buddy.... awesome in the sack, we both agree that its good to keep it where its at, however i feel like i want to start dating this chick, she turns me on so hard, i need this type of thing! is there a way to tell her that i want more than just the sex aspect without ruining what we have?
Then you are defeating the purpose of joining this forum if you are asking that question.
 

Donnie Darko

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If you want something more with her, then you need to start dating and fvcking other girls and become somewhat unavailable.

You should be taking full advantage of the situation anyway since she is just a fvck buddy. Honestly, she has to have other qualities to make her worthwhile than just being great in bed.

If you are cool and giving her good sex just watch what happens when you start diverting your attention.

If you ask her for something more, then you are probably not going to have anything with her anymore because she is going to think that you are falling in love with her. Make her fall in love with you and ask you for something more.

Enjoy the fvck buddy relationship for what it is and don't expect anything more. You need to care less than her. So stop caring about her and go out and have some fun and become the best man that you can be.
 
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