"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Telling a girl you had a dream about her?

Thorninmyside

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The quote didn't have an implied outcome. I doubt Einstein of the "winning at life" type. Set an outcome, do what you need to achieve that outcome, but not more than you need to.
Agreed. Einstein wasn't talking about life, he was talking about process if anything.

You aren't going to get her number if you whiz on by living "authentically"
Agreed again. Nothing authentic about b*********** about a dream that didn't happen as a hokey kind of play.

If an AFC "authentically" told a girl he thought they were soulmates and destined to be together forever, we would laugh him right out of here.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Thorninmyside said:
we advise people against saying stupid s*** everyday on this forum. Why are you so proactive about this one?
Tactics (a/k/a dos and dont's) are for PUA sites. SoSuave is about encouraging MEN to build real value.

taiyuu_otoko said:
All value is subjective. All people value themselves above all. Therefore everybody always holds the frame.
SMV is quantitative, and although not statistically unequivocal, can be reliably measured and applied.

Working examples:

A 9 can attract many 7s and 8s.
A 2 cannot attract many 5s and 6s.


taiyuu_otoko said:
In order to get a number from a girl you need to something besides think about it (unless you're like that dude Kilgrave on Jessica Jones). Among all the several courses of actions you could take, there are some actions that are too much and some actions that are too little.

You aren't going to get her number if you whiz on by living "authentically" (whatever the fvck that means...
Contradiction in your example, is it not? If you want the number, and are authentic, you will ask for it. When you don't ask for the number and want it, you are inauthentic. When you ask for the number enough times, you build social acumen.

taiyuu_otoko said:
(If all pedophiles lived authentically the neighborhood kids would be in big trouble...)
How do you know they are operating from authenticity? The argument could be made that pedophiles feel socially rejected and find relieve in people who are not socially aware. In this regard, they evade their authenticity.

But, I don't know the mind of a pedophile to speculate. So do share :)
 

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Telling a woman you had a dream about her doesn't make your balls fall off..... It can be a useful way to communicate intentions.

Keep it fun, sexy and make her hamster wheel spin...
 

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SMV is quantitative, and although not statistically unequivocal, can be reliably measured and applied.

Working examples:

A 9 can attract many 7s and 8s.
A 2 cannot attract many 5s and 6s.
So you're saying people with higher SMV therefore have more "frame"?

Of course, if you define SMV (another squirrley term one can use to justify any goofy circular reasoning) as being able to hold the frame, and your 2 informed by some aspect of frame, then you can win any internet argument.

How do you know they are operating from authenticity?
Pedofiles are pedofiles because they are sexually attracted to children. If they DO NOT act on that sexual impulse, they are NOT being authentic.

So your holy quest for "authenticity" is kind of blurred, as it only applies when it gets socially approved outcomes. Yet another squirrely term used to joust online with anonymous goofs.
 

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So you're saying people with higher SMV therefore have more "frame"?
Yes to the frame in relation to a lower SMV partner.

taiyuu_otoko" said:
Pedofiles are pedofiles because they are sexually attracted to children.
How do you know if it's a congenital attraction or a mental disability born of conditioned abuse?

In arguendo, if pedophiles did have an affinity to young children, how did that affinity manifest? Was it conditioned or congenital? Is not the conditioned affinity inauthentic to the congenital affinity or contrari-wise. Show me sources (to how the affinity manifested) to your response. Then we can proceed.

taiyuu_otoko said:
So your holy quest for "authenticity" is kind of blurred, as it only applies when it gets socially approved outcomes. Yet another squirrely term used to joust online with anonymous goofs.
Nothing blurred here, except your argument. ;)
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How do you know if it's a congenital attraction or a mental disability born of conditioned abuse?

In arguendo, if pedophiles did have an affinity to young children, how did that affinity manifest? Was it conditioned or congenital? Is not the conditioned affinity inauthentic to the congenital affinity or contrari-wise. Show me sources (to how the affinity manifested) to your response. Then we can proceed.
How you do know...

Show me evidence...

the last refuge of those with no more logical gunpowder.
 

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We havent banged yet( could have but circumstances prevented it) so i would not make it sexual.
Sorry brother you have already fvcked this up. If you had a shot to fvck her ... and you didn't you are DONE. As far as she is concerned you are a ball-less piece of cr@p. Circumstances be damned as a MAN you are not allowed to let something like 'circumstances get in your way... Next time a chick offers you sex... ****ing TAKE IT. What is wrong with dudes today.... as man your job is to **** the World... so go out and fvck as many women as you can.
 

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Sorry brother you have already fvcked this up. If you had a shot to fvck her ... and you didn't you are DONE. As far as she is concerned you are a ball-less piece of cr@p. Circumstances be damned as a MAN you are not allowed to let something like 'circumstances get in your way... Next time a chick offers you sex... ****ing TAKE IT. What is wrong with dudes today.... as man your job is to **** the World... so go out and fvck as many women as you can.
I was in a foreign country. She was dtf but on the last day before me and my company were flying home I ended up water skiing instead of hanging wit her because i wont get a chance to do that again for a long time but at least this chick lived really close to me at home, and as you all know it's not like there aren't plenty more women out there.

Why would I drop everything?
 

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I was in a foreign country. She was dtf but on the last day before me and my company were flying home I ended up water skiing instead of hanging wit her because i wont get a chance to do that again for a long time but at least this chick lived really close to me at home, and as you all know it's not like there aren't plenty more women out there.

Why would I drop everything?
Not sure what you are getting at.... clearly you cared enough about this to post it here for comments. You made your choice... water skiing was more important.... no problem. I do this all the time, you are right there are plenty of women in the world and they are pretty much all the same.

All I am saying is that if a chick gives you a window of opportunity... you either take it or pass.... if you pass, you are done.
 

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Not sure what you are getting at.... clearly you cared enough about this to post it here for comments. You made your choice... water skiing was more important.... no problem. I do this all the time, you are right there are plenty of women in the world and they are pretty much all the same.

All I am saying is that if a chick gives you a window of opportunity... you either take it or pass.... if you pass, you are done.
yes, **** or get off the pot in other words. completely agree. I made my choice.
though i thought i would work on it when im home to see what happens anyway as you are quite right i am still interested.

her interest seems to be there still gonna try meet soon and gauge from there. My text game needs work though which is why i posted here to make sure.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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