"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Tell her you want to f**k her???

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Hi boys,

I have a question to ask you about something a friend of mine claims he did.

According to him he just starts running a little game on a girl and then tells them he wants to screw them. since according to him women want sex just as bad they may fall for it and actually sleep with you.

any suggestions????
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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A friend of mine said he use to do this once he got a rapport with a girl at a bar. He said it was a numbers game. As long as he had a rapport and wasn't rude about it, he virtually never got slapped, most times than not, he never went home alone.

It can be that easy, but you've got to be great at getting that rapport and vonvo skills.
 

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MacAvoy,

I suppose you know what my next question is.....

at what point in the rapport do you know you can attempt to ask such a question?

and...

How to build the right kind of rapport???
 

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wouldn't recommend it.

2 things could go wrong
1)slap
2)get flattened by boyfriend/brother/male buddy

or worse

get thrown in jail.
 

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Its a feel game but generally he'd ask within 5 minutes. This guy must have slept with between 200-500 women in my guestimation. I worked with him and he was constantly lining up more targets 24/7.

He was also naturally funny so getting them to laugh was key. If your in a city, go to a different bar that you normally don't go to and just give it a try one night. What do you have to lose?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DonDelaVega said:
wouldn't recommend it.

2 things could go wrong
1)slap
2)get flattened by boyfriend/brother/male buddy

or worse

get thrown in jail.

1)A slap isnt going to kill you
2)You should be at a point with her where you would know if she has a boyfriend

Get thrown in jail? how? No women is going to run to the police and tell them you said you would like to **** her. Even then, how much trouble can you honeslty get in for that?


Telling a girl you want to **** her? Iv never tryed it but Iv been meaning to with the next chance i get. It sounds like it would work if the attraction is there.
 

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tells them he wants to screw them. since according to him women want sex just as bad they may fall for it and actually sleep with you.


Even AFCs get laid. Any tactic will work if you try it enough, but the bad tactics will scare off many more women than they snare.
 

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How is that an AFC move? An AFC would be ashamed to think about that let alone say that to a girl he just met.

Telling a girl you want her in your bed after building some rapport is a bold alpha male move.
 

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I think at some point before you rail a broad you have to either tell her you want to or ask her if she wants to so on and so forth. But I think everyone's missing the big idea.

If you've recently met a girl and you tell her you're trying to f*ck, that smells like desperation to me. If you're a decent looking guy and you play your cards well, you might get it, that is if the girl is just as desperate as you are. But coming out with that also takes all the control right outta your hands. What ever happened to giving the girl the chase? A screw is a screw but I guarantee you if you show some class and do things the right way the p*ssy will be much more worth it and the girl will be ten times wetter... I don't think being straight up with a new chick gets them hot and bothered.

There are *****s in the world. Your friend has met a few. That's all about that
 

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it's direct game + Gunwitch Method. it works but it's very situational. For all the instances where it isn't fool's mate (the girl is already horny and wants to fvck anyone so whether your game is good or not was irrelevant), and it works, you have to be well calibrated, confident and able to pump up attraction really fast. On top of that, it's tailored for a numbers game so you're gonna lose a lot of girls you could have gotten if you'd just took your time

there are FR's on this site of guys going up to girls and getting the kiss with NO conversation whatsoever. this is along those lines - very situational and most guys don't have the calibration to pull it off. that's unless they wanna play the numbers game - then eventually they'll get a fool's mate lay
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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jmm854 said:
What ever happened to giving the girl the chase? A screw is a screw but I guarantee you if you show some class and do things the right way the p*ssy will be much more worth it and the girl will be ten times wetter... I don't think being straight up with a new chick gets them hot and bothered.
Giving the girl the chase? That doesn't make any sense. Why would a girl ever chase a guy if she can get what she wants in 2 seconds from the next guy? Girls have what we want and they can always go down the street to get what they want if we don't supply what they are looking for.

That's like ordering a caterer for a party and telling him you are doing him a favor by eating the food. The thinking is illogical.
 

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ready123 said:
it's direct game + Gunwitch Method. it works but it's very situational. For all the instances where it isn't fool's mate (the girl is already horny and wants to fvck anyone so whether your game is good or not was irrelevant), and it works, you have to be well calibrated, confident and able to pump up attraction really fast. On top of that, it's tailored for a numbers game so you're gonna lose a lot of girls you could have gotten if you'd just took your time

there are FR's on this site of guys going up to girls and getting the kiss with NO conversation whatsoever. this is along those lines - very situational and most guys don't have the calibration to pull it off. that's unless they wanna play the numbers game - then eventually they'll get a fool's mate lay
so basically what you are saying is such a thing will rarely work.
 

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I'm saying it works but you need a strong skillset when it comes to direct game and sexual state. Main thing is calibration (AKA the rapport you were asking about). And even if your calibration is on point, you're still playing a numbers game to a degree because not all girls are gonna be receptive to this approach and the quick pull.

I was also trying to distinguish this kind of game from the guys who just beg for pvssy all day from any girl and get laid purely off the numbers game. Former takes a lot of skill, latter takes zero skill

I don't run this kind of game btw so I can't give advice on how to pull it off. There's gotta be somebody on this board who regularly goes for the quick isolation. Maybe they can help?
 

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yep its old GM/grandmaster method. you need to be completely congruent with it to work. recently ciaran at RSD added his own variation to the canon which he calls shock and awe/apocalypse opener - head over to RSD nation or majestic self for more info
 

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well yes please tell me more, i might try it this weekend when i go clubbing.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Kalel21 said:
well yes please tell me more, i might try it this weekend when i go clubbing.
http://www.themajesticself.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4322


i've tried this 3 times and had 1 success. the blow outs are weird, almost apologetic because they are so ****ing stunned. The way you hold yourself is critical - body language, vibe etc - this comes from core confidence. after it worked something shifted in my head
 

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I promise I have never once asked a woman to have sex with me. You don't ask, you just do it. She will stop you if she does not want to. Women want you to take the lead and make things happen. They want to be able to later think, 'one thing just led to another...'
 

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Might work but other methods are so much better.
 

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Ricky said:
Might work but other methods are so much better.
Bruce lee " have no way as a way". of course there are many different ways to do things, but if it possible to use this method i dont see why one shouldn't use it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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