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While I am on your side here, roads are not paid for out of income tax, most of the time. At least not federally. Schools are paid out of local property taxes.

Medicare, yes.
That’s not accurate. Funding for roads is highly subsidized with general funds. Schools are also subsidized with general funds depending on the state.
 

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Yea the roads, schools, and medicine for grandma. Horrible things they are...
People would have more money to choose to spend on these things (or not spend) if government didn't tax their money coming and going, and fix prices.

If you don't believe me, try starting your own courier service at less than 55 cents per parcel.

But like I said, I don't have all the answers to these problems, nor will I spend my life fighting city hall. Just trying to get people to think outside the box. Inside the box is where they want you.
 

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People would have more money to choose to spend on these things (or not spend) if government didn't tax their money coming and going, and fix prices.

If you don't believe me, try starting your own courier service at less than 55 cents per parcel.

But like I said, I don't have all the answers to these problems, nor will I spend my life fighting city hall. Just trying to get people to think outside the box. Inside the box is where they want you.
People would fail to adequately fund such things as roads and taking care of grandma. There’s a reason we have public funding; the private sector FAILED at such things in the past.
 

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TLDR:

End the Fed, Taxation is theft.
 

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People would have more money to choose to spend on these things (or not spend) if government didn't tax their money coming and going, and fix prices.

If you don't believe me, try starting your own courier service at less than 55 cents per parcel.

But like I said, I don't have all the answers to these problems, nor will I spend my life fighting city hall. Just trying to get people to think outside the box. Inside the box is where they want you.
If things like this were left up to a vote, then major cities would get ALL the amenities and rural communities would get nothing. There HAS to be SOME distribution of the wealth, if nothing else, for simply connectivity.

Tea party nutjobs only have half a point when there is an illusion of socialism going on. Lib-tard idiots only have half a point when crony capitalism starts dominating the landscape. The right mix is in the middle, which is GENERALLY what we have now, though the average seems to be creeping left slowly but surely.
 

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Where did the private sector fail at this?
It has not failed YET, but I firmly believe it would fail.

Private program management (at least in the transportation world) is good as an 'assisting' arm of the government, so the government does not have to permanently staff up, for certain projects. But when it's 100% controlled by private interests, that interest will take the place of the public good.

Certainly you have good government, bad government, good private companies, bad private companies. But you cannot deny that over time the private side WILL venture towards its own interest, while the government side MAY, and if so, only for a short time before the corruption is eliminated.
 

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If things like this were left up to a vote, then major cities would get ALL the amenities and rural communities would get nothing. There HAS to be SOME distribution of the wealth, if nothing else, for simply connectivity.

Tea party nutjobs only have half a point when there is an illusion of socialism going on. Lib-tard idiots only have half a point when crony capitalism starts dominating the landscape. The right mix is in the middle, which is GENERALLY what we have now, though the average seems to be creeping left slowly but surely.
Middle ground fallacy.

Without cities, rural America would be completely deserted. Rural areas and states are in fact the leeches. The coasts + Chicago & Texas basically is the US economy, thus the source of funds.
 

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Example: To leftists, capitalism is often considered a failure because of a wealth gap. They literally want everyone to be equal financially as a goal and a value.
Nope. That's a strawman argument.


Where did the private sector fail at this?
Infrastructure - complete collapse of the private rail industry.

Elderly -Before social security, elderly poverty was rampant. Capitalists would throw grandma off a cliff if they could get away with it.

Health care - the U.S. health care system sucks for everyone who isn't wealthy.
 

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Yea the roads, schools, and medicine for grandma. Horrible things they are...
Federal taxes pay for ZERO social services. All it does is pay down the federal debt. News flash: the federal debt can NEVER be paid off.
 

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Middle ground fallacy.

Without cities, rural America would be completely deserted. Rural areas and states are in fact the leeches. The coasts + Chicago & Texas basically is the US economy, thus the source of funds.
To use your words, NOPE.

I was actually agreeing with you, you no reading comprehension having mfer. Did you not see where I said the cities would control everything if left to the people?

You want to help the poor people, but yet you also want to throw rural America, where the least of the wealth is, under the bus. So you're saying you do NOT want redistribution of wealth.

We all know what you want. You are the real racist here. You aren't fooling anybody, Mr. Reparations.
 
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Elderly -Before social security, elderly poverty was rampant. Capitalists would throw grandma off a cliff if they could get away with it.

Health care - the U.S. health care system sucks for everyone who isn't wealthy.
Literally the only thing I agree with dems on is infrastructure, so I'll just concentrate on these two items.

I'd hate for grandma to take care of herself. That's simply too much to ask isn't it, hahaha.

Health care? Oh dear. The freaking poor have FREE health care right now. Your idiot lib-tard lawyer pals are the ones who ruined health care, suing the sh*t out of every doctor who practices.
 

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Literally the only thing I agree with dems on is infrastructure, so I'll just concentrate on these two items.

I'd hate for grandma to take care of herself. That's simply too much to ask isn't it, hahaha.

Health care? Oh dear. The freaking poor have FREE health care right now. Your idiot lib-tard lawyer pals are the ones who ruined health care, suing the sh*t out of every doctor who practices.
You'll never get anywhere debating with goofballs like eyezberollin or biblebelt. One is addicted to gibz and the other is a brainwashed guilty white liberal who will say and do anything to facilitate the destruction of their own race.
 

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a brainwashed guilty white liberal who will say and do anything to facilitate the destruction of their own race.
How do you make those pointy white hats out of your bed sheets? Is that starch that holds those things up? Don't get too close to the cross at the rally. Those outfits look quite flammable.
 

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Liberal logic: Fighting for your tribes right to survive is equivalent to the KKK.

1. If they cannot counter the logic, they attack the person.
2. If that doesn't silence them, they push for censorship.
Upon further review, it looks like Grand Poobah stole the hat design from the church. Check out the height some of those dudes get with their hat points. There has ro be some wire in there:
 

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I love the desperation. Soon he will call for censorship again

Submit to the murder of your tribe! Lest I deem thee racist!!!

Can't fight that logic. <eyeroll>
He did some master level concern trolling the other day, saying we would all be fired for posting all this nazi propaganda. Definitely getting desperate.
 

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To use your words, NOPE.

I was actually agreeing with you, you no reading comprehension having mfer. Did you not see where I said the cities would control everything if left to the people?

You want to help the poor people, but yet you also want to throw rural America, where the least of the wealth is, under the bus. So you're saying you do NOT want redistribution of wealth.

We all know what you want. You are the real racist here. You aren't fooling anybody, Mr. Reparations.
My disdain for rural America is their outsized political power because of the stupid ass Senate. Does anyone really think Wyoming should have as much power as New York, Texas, and California?

If we get that discrepancy fixed, I’d have no problem helping rural America. It just shouldn’t come at such an expense to states that actually produce.
 

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My disdain for rural America is their outsized political power because of the stupid ass Senate. Does anyone really think Wyoming should have as much power as New York, Texas, and California?

If we get that discrepancy fixed, I’d have no problem helping rural America. It just shouldn’t come at such an expense to states that actually produce.
LOL, just like whites and asians should not have to foot the bill for lazy blacks and hispanics and native americans looking for endless gub'ment handouts. Reparations and sheeeiit!
 

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How do you make those pointy white hats out of your bed sheets? Is that starch that holds those things up? Don't get too close to the cross at the rally. Those outfits look quite flammable.
Yeah, you're the doofus who claimed Michael Jackson was a white supremacist klansmen. No one with even a single brain cell thinks that makes sense.
 
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