"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Talking to girls on AIM

PinkFloyd

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Hello, I recently found this site and thought I'd ask a question.

When I'm out with a girl or at school, girls are cake because I can get physical signals from her and be around her. But online it's like a whole different world. I'm always afraid I'm going to say something stupid to turn her off. It's even worse because its in text and she can reread it.

My question to you "DJ"s is: What can I say to girls while talking to them online to test if they are interested or not?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Damian

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Tip: Don't talk to girls online if you don't know what to say.

On the other hand, there aren't any REAL IOI's that you can recieve over the net. Try doing more progression in person. Talking through IM's is usually counter-productive if you don't have any idea what you're saying. The phone is a better idea if you can get good signals in person. There are a bunch of ways to do some good online conversations, but I'm way too lazy to type them all up here.

-Damian
 

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One way to check for interest is to let her initiate convos with you, so make sure that you're not the only one starting them.
 

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Talking isn't the problem, I love starting conversations about anything, I'm just looking for some indications. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to see her at school.

And madseason, that sounds like a good idea. I usually try this but end up caving in :(
 

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Hey,
You can mess around like i do, if u kinda kno them, this counts if u dontkno wer they live
Gurls always say 'im bored' online
or if u ask her watshes doin, she says sumthin an u say 'whoa that sounds borin' or 'u sound like ure really enjoyin ureself!'

Shell be like 'yeah i kno im really bored

then u say 'hmmm im really bored too, wer do u liv agen? ;)'
then say 'naah im jus messin'

then u can tell form their reaction if they like u, jus play it, u can get away wit stuff that u cant wen ure infront of them face to face

If they see u doin this, they mite start to venrute an become more braver sayin things thatthe feel inside but r too shy to say! good luuuuck man!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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(Do not attempt to use prior users advice.)

Just ask them if they want to hang out, I would ask over the phone or in person, theres a much larger rate of success.

Toodles..
 

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Conversations never last as long for me online when I'm the one who intiates them. Just something that prevents me from carrying it on, feels like I"m seeking their approval to keep speaking.
 

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Well I signed off of Aim for 10 minutes or so and then signed back on. The girl was on but I didn't IM her. I had just had a conversation with her earlier but she had to go to dinner.

I waited awhile but recieved no IM from her. I then put up my away message and she puts hers up soon after. Is this a sign or something? I'm still training myself to notice these things.
 

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No. This is not a sign. I would call her.

Now if you really want to get into statistics with a fair amount of knowledge you can find out if there is a real relationship. First write a program in perl that fufills the following requirements and run it on linux. Use tcpdump to capture packets and write filters that can filter out all packets except those that deal with OSCAR, specifically going away and returning. Then extract the time of each of those packets and put that along with the screen name in a database. I recommend mysql. Write up a PHP front-end and run it on apache. Then find the times between you going away and her going away and throw out any obscure values. Plot the output on a graph via standard deviation. This will give you the stardard ammount of time it takes for her to go away after you go away. The smaller this value is the more chance you have of her liking you. There are a number of technical challenges to overcome but I feel this method is the only way to determin if she likes you by how long it takes her to go away. In the future you could add more demensions like how long it takes her to log off after you do but there are some implication problems....


Thats the hard way to do it... the easy way is to call her and ask her to go somewhere with you sometime.
 

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AB500 said:
No. This is not a sign. I would call her.

Now if you really want to get into statistics with a fair amount of knowledge you can find out if there is a real relationship. First write a program in perl that fufills the following requirements and run it on linux. Use tcpdump to capture packets and write filters that can filter out all packets except those that deal with OSCAR, specifically going away and returning. Then extract the time of each of those packets and put that along with the screen name in a database. I recommend mysql. Write up a PHP front-end and run it on apache. Then find the times between you going away and her going away and throw out any obscure values. Plot the output on a graph via standard deviation. This will give you the stardard ammount of time it takes for her to go away after you go away. The smaller this value is the more chance you have of her liking you. There are a number of technical challenges to overcome but I feel this method is the only way to determin if she likes you by how long it takes her to go away. In the future you could add more demensions like how long it takes her to log off after you do but there are some implication problems....


Thats the hard way to do it... the easy way is to call her and ask her to go somewhere with you sometime.
I'm laughing because of how much time you wasted typing that unfunny joke.

Good one.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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AB500 said:
No. This is not a sign. I would call her.

Now if you really want to get into statistics with a fair amount of knowledge you can find out if there is a real relationship. First write a program in perl that fufills the following requirements and run it on linux. Use tcpdump to capture packets and write filters that can filter out all packets except those that deal with OSCAR, specifically going away and returning. Then extract the time of each of those packets and put that along with the screen name in a database. I recommend mysql. Write up a PHP front-end and run it on apache. Then find the times between you going away and her going away and throw out any obscure values. Plot the output on a graph via standard deviation. This will give you the stardard ammount of time it takes for her to go away after you go away. The smaller this value is the more chance you have of her liking you. There are a number of technical challenges to overcome but I feel this method is the only way to determin if she likes you by how long it takes her to go away. In the future you could add more demensions like how long it takes her to log off after you do but there are some implication problems....


Thats the hard way to do it... the easy way is to call her and ask her to go somewhere with you sometime.
lol, I got a laugh.
 

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Stop talking on IM.Thats what you should do.I stopped heavy talking on IM like MSN and a lot of girls asked me why I stopped talking on IM.It makes them curious.

Stop wasting your time in front of your computer ruining your eyesight and go out there and talk to some HBs.That way,you get to know girls,and your eyes get to feast too.

PS-But do remember to come here once in a while,it'll make your a smarter person at the end of the day.
 

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I'm laughing because of how much time you wasted typing that unfunny joke.
Hmm.. I guess I shouldn't tell you that I've wrote a good half of the code... for the stupid idea it is it's a great time killer when you don't have anything better to do, plus I've always wondered if you could draw any conclusions from when people go away/sign on/off.
 
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