"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Talking to girls on AIM

PinkFloyd

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Hello, I recently found this site and thought I'd ask a question.

When I'm out with a girl or at school, girls are cake because I can get physical signals from her and be around her. But online it's like a whole different world. I'm always afraid I'm going to say something stupid to turn her off. It's even worse because its in text and she can reread it.

My question to you "DJ"s is: What can I say to girls while talking to them online to test if they are interested or not?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Damian

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Tip: Don't talk to girls online if you don't know what to say.

On the other hand, there aren't any REAL IOI's that you can recieve over the net. Try doing more progression in person. Talking through IM's is usually counter-productive if you don't have any idea what you're saying. The phone is a better idea if you can get good signals in person. There are a bunch of ways to do some good online conversations, but I'm way too lazy to type them all up here.

-Damian
 

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One way to check for interest is to let her initiate convos with you, so make sure that you're not the only one starting them.
 

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Talking isn't the problem, I love starting conversations about anything, I'm just looking for some indications. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to see her at school.

And madseason, that sounds like a good idea. I usually try this but end up caving in :(
 

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Hey,
You can mess around like i do, if u kinda kno them, this counts if u dontkno wer they live
Gurls always say 'im bored' online
or if u ask her watshes doin, she says sumthin an u say 'whoa that sounds borin' or 'u sound like ure really enjoyin ureself!'

Shell be like 'yeah i kno im really bored

then u say 'hmmm im really bored too, wer do u liv agen? ;)'
then say 'naah im jus messin'

then u can tell form their reaction if they like u, jus play it, u can get away wit stuff that u cant wen ure infront of them face to face

If they see u doin this, they mite start to venrute an become more braver sayin things thatthe feel inside but r too shy to say! good luuuuck man!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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(Do not attempt to use prior users advice.)

Just ask them if they want to hang out, I would ask over the phone or in person, theres a much larger rate of success.

Toodles..
 

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Conversations never last as long for me online when I'm the one who intiates them. Just something that prevents me from carrying it on, feels like I"m seeking their approval to keep speaking.
 

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Well I signed off of Aim for 10 minutes or so and then signed back on. The girl was on but I didn't IM her. I had just had a conversation with her earlier but she had to go to dinner.

I waited awhile but recieved no IM from her. I then put up my away message and she puts hers up soon after. Is this a sign or something? I'm still training myself to notice these things.
 

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No. This is not a sign. I would call her.

Now if you really want to get into statistics with a fair amount of knowledge you can find out if there is a real relationship. First write a program in perl that fufills the following requirements and run it on linux. Use tcpdump to capture packets and write filters that can filter out all packets except those that deal with OSCAR, specifically going away and returning. Then extract the time of each of those packets and put that along with the screen name in a database. I recommend mysql. Write up a PHP front-end and run it on apache. Then find the times between you going away and her going away and throw out any obscure values. Plot the output on a graph via standard deviation. This will give you the stardard ammount of time it takes for her to go away after you go away. The smaller this value is the more chance you have of her liking you. There are a number of technical challenges to overcome but I feel this method is the only way to determin if she likes you by how long it takes her to go away. In the future you could add more demensions like how long it takes her to log off after you do but there are some implication problems....


Thats the hard way to do it... the easy way is to call her and ask her to go somewhere with you sometime.
 

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AB500 said:
No. This is not a sign. I would call her.

Now if you really want to get into statistics with a fair amount of knowledge you can find out if there is a real relationship. First write a program in perl that fufills the following requirements and run it on linux. Use tcpdump to capture packets and write filters that can filter out all packets except those that deal with OSCAR, specifically going away and returning. Then extract the time of each of those packets and put that along with the screen name in a database. I recommend mysql. Write up a PHP front-end and run it on apache. Then find the times between you going away and her going away and throw out any obscure values. Plot the output on a graph via standard deviation. This will give you the stardard ammount of time it takes for her to go away after you go away. The smaller this value is the more chance you have of her liking you. There are a number of technical challenges to overcome but I feel this method is the only way to determin if she likes you by how long it takes her to go away. In the future you could add more demensions like how long it takes her to log off after you do but there are some implication problems....


Thats the hard way to do it... the easy way is to call her and ask her to go somewhere with you sometime.
I'm laughing because of how much time you wasted typing that unfunny joke.

Good one.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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AB500 said:
No. This is not a sign. I would call her.

Now if you really want to get into statistics with a fair amount of knowledge you can find out if there is a real relationship. First write a program in perl that fufills the following requirements and run it on linux. Use tcpdump to capture packets and write filters that can filter out all packets except those that deal with OSCAR, specifically going away and returning. Then extract the time of each of those packets and put that along with the screen name in a database. I recommend mysql. Write up a PHP front-end and run it on apache. Then find the times between you going away and her going away and throw out any obscure values. Plot the output on a graph via standard deviation. This will give you the stardard ammount of time it takes for her to go away after you go away. The smaller this value is the more chance you have of her liking you. There are a number of technical challenges to overcome but I feel this method is the only way to determin if she likes you by how long it takes her to go away. In the future you could add more demensions like how long it takes her to log off after you do but there are some implication problems....


Thats the hard way to do it... the easy way is to call her and ask her to go somewhere with you sometime.
lol, I got a laugh.
 

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Stop talking on IM.Thats what you should do.I stopped heavy talking on IM like MSN and a lot of girls asked me why I stopped talking on IM.It makes them curious.

Stop wasting your time in front of your computer ruining your eyesight and go out there and talk to some HBs.That way,you get to know girls,and your eyes get to feast too.

PS-But do remember to come here once in a while,it'll make your a smarter person at the end of the day.
 

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I'm laughing because of how much time you wasted typing that unfunny joke.
Hmm.. I guess I shouldn't tell you that I've wrote a good half of the code... for the stupid idea it is it's a great time killer when you don't have anything better to do, plus I've always wondered if you could draw any conclusions from when people go away/sign on/off.
 
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