"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Talking about yourself

Gammergq

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Maybe this is where I have been going wrong with girls and in conversations with people in general. You see I am am the perfect listener I like to get to know people get them to open up but I dont like to talk about myself that much I feel it could come across self absurbed. Should I use the talk about myself or should I stick to my old game?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ChrizZ

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according to Juggler talking about yourself is crucial to make others comfortable. You have to talk in the "I" perspective in order to get other people to open up to you. Furthermore you have to describe the emotions you felt and ask lots of open ended questions. It is also important that there has to be an equal energy shift between the two persons talking. Meaning that you start out with 90% of the talking and let her do 10% of the talking. However after she opens up to you it is 50/50. It's also important to make lots of statements and only ask big questions (e.g.: "So what's your life story?" etc.)


Example:

I love Paris. I like the people there, they made me feel like I had known them forever because they were so friendly. Have you ever met people like that? ...

hope that helps.
 

ready123

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when you talk about yourself, don't make the mistake of bragging

DO open up though and share the occassional thing that makes you feel somewhat vulnerable. that's what Juggler was trying to get at. it makes you appear more "real" as a person, on top of that makes her comfortable
 
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