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....and it wasn't clever. Quelle f***ing surprise I guess.

Bit of a rant here tbh guys, I just can't really believe how this has escalated.

Was talking to a chick I've known a while, she sent me some interesting political documentaries. Watched them and enjoyed them, she is very Left wing but usually cool that I am more centrist. I am very non-judgemental about her politics, in fact I enjoy learning more about what she thinks about the world.

In response I sent her an article on censorship in the media written by a more Right guy, but the article itself was basically not partisan or political in any significant way. I believe the government should not excessively censor people and that was basically what the article was describing.

Well, now I've had 5 days of hearing about how "I'm not the person she thought I was", "I don't care about people different from [myself]" (WTF) and she "can't believe that I listen to Far Right propaganda" (which seems ludicrous considering how mild this article is).

I've tried to be 100% reasonable back but it's pretty hard when she's started attacking my personal character based off some random f*cking article I sent her. I'm going silent for a while now in an effort to repair things but my God.

Don't know if I picked a week when she's just super p*ssed at something or what, but it's like the wrath of God is in my inbox now and I have literally no idea why she seems so furious and disgusted. All over one article. Ughhh.
 

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Pretty hard to make any calls without seeing the article bro.
 
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Never speak politics or religion, you bound to create drama.

Also, we live in an age where young persons especially woman are raised to be "always right"..

See it has my way or the highway.

So it drives them crazy that someone wouldn't be " 100% submitted to their imperative".

Note: a woman like challenge... so how contradicting is her behaviour :p
 

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Each time when a chick brings something up like politics, religion or superstitious mambo jumbo it's best to stay well clear of it, listen and just nod ur head.

No good can come from it by discussing with them, women don't have the intellectual depths to think rationally but assign feelings/emotions to their thoughts.

So even questioning their beliefs or offering a different opinion is basically disrespecting their feelings which they take it as an attack.

Welcome to the feminine world.
 

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Well, now I've had 5 days of hearing about how "I'm not the person she thought I was", "I don't care about people different from [myself]" (WTF) and she "can't believe that I listen to Far Right propaganda" (which seems ludicrous considering how mild this article is).
You are not there to be a soy boy champion to her causes. You learned something valuable there. I've had a few women try to start a political conversation with me.

Politics and religion and social issues are mindsets that she is trying to discover in you. The purpose is to put you into a label, box, categorization, etc. Which means she hadn't figured you out at that point and was trying to solve the puzzle.

Firstly, you let her inside to your beliefs, whether she got the right impression or not. This has nothing to do with your purpose. A woman better be bending over backwards and doing back flips before I let her in for leverage.

This stuff is actually leverage. You may not know it yet but a leftist is your enemy. Understanding the leftist mind is rather simple. But thats a different subject.

That stuff is none of her business.
 

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I tend to avoid politics as a subject with women but if she brings an issue up...contrary to what other people might say, it's easy to talk politics with a female. Just don't get emotionally invested.

If SHE is so emotionally invested that she rejects you based on an opinion, that's fine. Who cares? Okay by me.

If you find yourself in the midst of a conversation like that and are in doubt how to proceed, remember this: Rather than have all the right answers, just ask all the right questions.

Just keep in mind at the end of the day, it's about seducing her, not winning arguments.
 

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There was a study showing that single women are more likely to be extreme in their politics. It's our natural part to be rational and balanced.

I think your intention was good, but the practice of which was too slack. The non-judgmental attitude was too much. Should be judgemental as your judgement has worth.

Oh, and when I say "be judgemental", shouldn't be overt. Most intense position that I've been in with this was on the Brexit vote when I was voting for Brexit despite having an immigrant girlfriend and an immigrant plate. Didn't bullsh*t anyone, but was like nothing i've experienced in my lifetime for passion.

What you'll find in the sweet spot is that the women will engage you on the level of enjoying your presence whilst trying to change your view over time. Meanwhile they are already "in your frame" as they say. Therefore you get a balance.
 
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Everyone is right, avoid politics and religion and social causes at all cost. Here’s the thing, the woman herself is a herd animal. It’s the flashy cool thing to be lefty mcatheist so naturally women flock to it. I don’t really think they actually even believe it.

I understand the frustration. You are using logical thinking and trying to inject it into a place where logic does not exist (female). Just steer clear. I don’t recommend nodding and agreeing, just switch the subject. Move on and don’t look back. If pressed, give her your opinion in a matter of fact way and then move on. If she calls you a nut job or a selfish conservative then you need to discipline her for disrespect. It may work, it may not. But you did what you could.
 

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There was a study showing that single women are more likely to be extreme in their politics. It's our natural part to be rational and balanced.

I think your intention was good, but the practice of which was too slack. The non-judgmental attitude was too much. Should be judgemental as your judgement has worth.

Oh, and when I say "be judgemental", shouldn't be overt. Most intense position that I've been in with this was on the Brexit vote when I was voting for Brexit despite having an immigrant girlfriend and an immigrant plate. Didn't bullsh*t anyone, but was like nothing i've experienced in my lifetime for passion.

What you'll find in the sweet spot is that the women will engage you on the level of enjoying your presence whilst trying to change your view over time. Meanwhile they are already "in your frame" as they say. Therefore you get a balance.
Jeez, yeah, Brexit was one thing she tears into me on as well. We had a really good discussion about it in person (I was Leave, she was Remain).

I voted Leave because I dislike the EU as a political institution and I believe it will be bad for democracy in the future. Whereas she immediately jumped to saying it's because I dislike immigrants or some such nonsense, but I managed to make her see reason and we seemed to leave it with mutual respect.

2 weeks later and now I'm apparently an uncaring evil Far Right-er because I shared a moderate video. FML.

(I will see if I can find the video/article).
 

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You applied reason. You are foolish to think she is capable of such things. Her friends straightened her back out. Now you’re dregs. Haha
 

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She lost interest so now you see the real her because she has no reason to hide it. Dodged a bullet.

Personally I just escalate once they make the mistake of entering my world (politics). Doesn't end well for them.
 

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Jeez, yeah, Brexit was one thing she tears into me on as well. We had a really good discussion about it in person (I was Leave, she was Remain).

I voted Leave because I dislike the EU as a political institution and I believe it will be bad for democracy in the future. Whereas she immediately jumped to saying it's because I dislike immigrants or some such nonsense, but I managed to make her see reason and we seemed to leave it with mutual respect.

2 weeks later and now I'm apparently an uncaring evil Far Right-er because I shared a moderate video. FML.

(I will see if I can find the video/article).
Lol don't take it personal or anything.

I agree with a lot of what sosuave666 said, the behaviour is just copy-catting quite a lot of the time and not really deserving of adult respect.
 

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....and it wasn't clever. Quelle f***ing surprise I guess.

Bit of a rant here tbh guys, I just can't really believe how this has escalated.

Was talking to a chick I've known a while, she sent me some interesting political documentaries. Watched them and enjoyed them, she is very Left wing but usually cool that I am more centrist. I am very non-judgemental about her politics, in fact I enjoy learning more about what she thinks about the world.

In response I sent her an article on censorship in the media written by a more Right guy, but the article itself was basically not partisan or political in any significant way. I believe the government should not excessively censor people and that was basically what the article was describing.

Well, now I've had 5 days of hearing about how "I'm not the person she thought I was", "I don't care about people different from [myself]" (WTF) and she "can't believe that I listen to Far Right propaganda" (which seems ludicrous considering how mild this article is).

I've tried to be 100% reasonable back but it's pretty hard when she's started attacking my personal character based off some random f*cking article I sent her. I'm going silent for a while now in an effort to repair things but my God.

Don't know if I picked a week when she's just super p*ssed at something or what, but it's like the wrath of God is in my inbox now and I have literally no idea why she seems so furious and disgusted. All over one article. Ughhh.
With almost all of them it’s about how someone makes them feel.

Trump could cure cancer and bring peace to the Middle East , and they would still despise him, because he makes them feel bad.

-Augustus-
 

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meh, most here say to evade the topic but unless she is just a lay, I say if that topic come up see how she deal with it, anything stupid from that you leave, politics and religion is something in a LTR will hit the fan, if is just for fun and having sex then yes evade topics like these, if you want to check a LTR, that is a good way, see her response, and see if she can agree with you, if she won't and get pissy about it, move on
 

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If things are a mess this early on, why would you want to continue even putting effort into talking to her?
 

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She's obviously a nut job. Sounds like you dodged a bullet. Left wingers love to dish it out but they sure can't take it so let her go find a homeless guy who agrees with her worship of government then she can live happily ever after.
 

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She's obviously a nut job. Sounds like you dodged a bullet. Left wingers love to dish it out but they sure can't take it so let her go find a homeless guy who agrees with her worship of government then she can live happily ever after.
Or a woman who was given a political and social paradigm that she has fully molded her self to.
Full operation and thinking she is the part of the precious women rule the earth new think.
 
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Well, now I've had 5 days of hearing about how "I'm not the person she thought I was", "I don't care about people different from [myself]" (WTF) and she "can't believe that I listen to Far Right propaganda" (which seems ludicrous considering how mild this article is).
Typical leftist zealot groupthink. This is why I've learned to despise the left: Rules for thee but not for me. If it were me, I'd call her a bigot; because she is one. Maybe that will get her to **** off from your inbox at least.
 
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