"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Taking a Girl to the beach but she has a bf
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- Start date
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
donjuanapprentice01
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SleepyRangerMedic82D
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Commandante
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Yeah, I would do the same, or would pay someone for doing that. But some guys are suicide.SleepyRangerMedic82D said:
SleepyRangerMedic82D
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seriously stay away
Nutz
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My gut instinct is if she was interested in you "that way" then you wouldn't be going to the beach. It'd be to a club and back to your place and she'd be explaining to the bf the next day why she spent the night at your place and how you are "just a friend", which is after she complains to you as you're pounding her out about how her bf is so needy and keeps calling to see where she's at.
Just reading the information available in the DJ bible etc. it comes off to me all is fair when it comes to gaming girls. After all why let a boyfriend you don't know nor give a damn about get in the way of you trying to pickup a chick. There should be no rules as long as her boyfriend isn't your best friend or something. Its the boyfriend and his girls fault that there relationship isn't strong enough to survive a random DJ from interfering. From the boyfriends perspective: don't put blame on the other guy instead put the blame on the girl, she obviously doesn't like you much.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
bukowski_merit
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but i guess it depends on what frame you have her in right now... if it's a friendship frame or a sexual partner frame. because these things have already been established in her head.
Honestly, 5-6 years ago... this board wasn't so "church" like.... and most of those posters are the ones who laid the foundation for what it means to be a "dj" (i do not consider myself that at all). but in recent years - the morale police have taken over here; mostly keyboard jockeys who aren't far removed from being an AFC (who most likely got cheated on themselves, which would explain their bitterness)....DonChino said:
but you are right... threads about cheating and having a lot of girlfriends were much better received back in the day here... there's still plenty of sites out there that don't judge as much as this one though... fast seduction, seduction database, rsd... etc...
^^ Spot on ^^speakeasy said:
Any boyfriend that is gonna fight/kill/jump another dude because his girlfriend cheated on him is a fvcking chump in the first place. If i was the one getting cheated on i'd tell the other guy, " Thanks for showing me that she is a waste of my time."
Oh and please comeback with well maybe he is a chump and he MIGHT do something like that. Well guess what MAYBE she has a stalker also and the stalker MIGHT be thinking of killing her boyfriend because he is a bigger chump than he is. This is a stupid fvcking mindset to have.
Some of you on here need to get with the program. You shouldn't disqualify yourself from a woman just because she has a boyfriend. All you're doing is limiting yourself from getting more plates and potential quality women.
Read the obey your d1ck thread. Your d1ck doesn't care if the slvt has a boyfriend.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
In my personal code of ethics, I do not. The reason is that I want to help my fellow man, not destroy him emotionally by being an ass thief.
Additionally, you need to consider whether or not pursuing a girl with a boyfriend is acting congruently with being a high value guy. A high value guy has an abundance mentality. Is pursuing a girl with a boyfriend coming from a place of abundance or scarcity?
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First off, if the girl is going out with you, you must have something going on to have her to go on a date with you over her bf. Keep her interest up and she'll dump him for you.
You should also know not to act like her friend if you want something to develop.
The best friend waited for something to develop and then WHAM! He got developed!
Your d**k doesn't give a f**k about the girl's bf.
And, TO THE OP, why the f**k are you all worried about beating up the bf? You are insecure even if you do whoop his monkey ass like he owes you money! And that shooting sh*t, don't do it motherf**ker! 20+ years in prison ain't worth a score unless your cellmate bends over in the shower.
You think cuz you're bigger than that dude you're big and bad? Huh? What a jackass! :crackup: That's an Omega male quality you have there. Stop that sh*t. You won't be so big and bad when Five-O brings you to that ground in cuffs.
Seriously, if she really wants her bf, she wouldn't be with you. Act as if you don't need her. And yes, kino unless you wanna spend 20+ years in Platonic Springs, Tennessee.
The girl knows what she's doing by going out with you in the first place! Attraction is not a f**king choice!
Play your cards right!
Hughman
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If you do "the friend thing" you will be in the friendzone. End of story.mtlwlu said:
You have to kino, if you don't, you're in the friendzone. Forget about her having a boyfriend. Treat her like any other woman you're dating.
It's fine to date/have sex with them, just don't get into a relationship with them, as they will cheat on you too.
He should blame her if she cheats (she should either not do it, or end her first relationship), and himself, for not keeping her interested.
If a man can't keep a woman attracted, it's his problem. She'll cheat sooner or later, may as well be with you
Being a DJ isn't just about the craft, it's about the craftsman.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.