"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Take your pick - Sex or Relationship?

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Yesterday, I was talking to one of my friends (the same one from http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77663) and an interesting question of debate came up:

Would you rather:
1.) Have amazing, unforgetable sex with the really hot girl you like once and that's it.

OR

2.) Have a one-year relationship with the really hot girl you like, but no sex - kissing and perhaps making out (just the kissing part, no feeling under the clothes) is the farthest you'd go.

Which would you choose and why?
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Anybody? :rolleyes:

Again, you can either have amazing, unforgetable sex with a girl you like once, or have a one-year relationship with the girl you like, but no sex (just read the original post).

So you can have one but not the other.
 
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Unforgettable sex, because by its very definition its unforgetable. Whereas I can always get another relationship.

Although, on second thoughts, if its unforgettable, it might pale all your other experiences.
 
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Daaamn that's a tough call. I went half a year with just making out and no feeling under clothing and it got stale, so I don't think I could do it for a full year. But on the other hand, I'm gaurenteed hot unforgetable sex once, only once? But on the other hand with the LTR would I be guarenteed sex after the 1 year? it's really definately a tough call.
 
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Originally posted by arcilitei34
Daaamn that's a tough call. I went half a year with just making out and no feeling under clothing and it got stale, so I don't think I could do it for a full year. But on the other hand, I'm gaurenteed hot unforgetable sex once, only once? But on the other hand with the LTR would I be guarenteed sex after the 1 year? it's really definately a tough call.
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Nothing is guarunteed with the relationship (underlined portion on the quote above) :eek:

This really is tough though - I can't even decide on it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Not tough for me at all, I'd pick the sex (as long as I knew she wasn't carrying any STDs). That way, you get sex and the chance to do whatever the hell you feel like for the next year, be it more sex or find a relationship. Being stuck in a relationship and being limited to just kissing... defeats the point, doesn't it? That's called being friends.
 
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sex....i dont need no emotional bull**** from a girl without any payback.
 
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I wouldn't have a relationship in the sense that we are going out but I would actually be friends if she were amazingly fun to hang out with. 9 out of 10 times I would go for the sex. I wouldn't make out with someone I was friends with. I don't usually ever go the gf route.
 
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Unforgettable sex. Because the next weekend I am free to try and achieve this dream again.

If the girl doesn't make with the head fast, I'm out there anyways...I don't dig prudes.
 
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Originally posted by NYC Dude
Not tough for me at all, I'd pick the sex (as long as I knew she wasn't carrying any STDs). That way, you get sex and the chance to do whatever the hell you feel like for the next year, be it more sex or find a relationship. Being stuck in a relationship and being limited to just kissing... defeats the point, doesn't it? That's called being friends.
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Thats what i thought, do whatever the hell you want, but if the sex is unforgettable, everything else would pale. Currently im doing both of them. Long term girlfriend, who I am cheating on.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Definitely sex. Like mentioned, I can use that one year of my life to find another relationship.
 
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Originally posted by JSH
Thats what i thought, do whatever the hell you want, but if the sex is unforgettable, everything else would pale. Currently im doing both of them. Long term girlfriend, who I am cheating on.
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haha what a guy....love the honesty
 
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My memory is horrible, so the only way to make the sex unforgettable would be to video tape it.

And I've always wanted my own video tape of me nailing a hot chick.

Therefore, I choose sex. One wild night of hot, sweaty pig sex
 
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At this stage i dont get involved in a relationship UNTIL ive railed her. I would NEVER stay in a relationship for a year and not get any, i might as well put my balls in her purse.
 
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Originally posted by JSH
Thats what i thought, do whatever the hell you want, but if the sex is unforgettable, everything else would pale. Currently im doing both of them. Long term girlfriend, who I am cheating on.
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Oh, well that's nice.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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