Syria Isn't Over

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Our president has changed, but obviously our Middle East policy is set by the oil companies, and not the president. Backing the "moderate opposition" was the policy that Obama took so much heat over, but we're still doing the same thing. We're not going to let the Russians claim all the good oil pipeline routes, so we need to prop up the Kurds and maintain at least a perpetual stalemate in what will be a never-ending war.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/syria-turkey-russia-blast-us-backed-kurdish-border-force-terrorist-army/

Turkey, Russia blast U.S.-backed Syria force as "terrorist army"
BEIRUT -- Russia, Turkey and the Syrian government on Monday denounced the U.S.-led coalition plans to form a Kurdish-led border force to secure the areas along Syria's international border to the north with Turkey and to the east, with Iraq.

The coalition told The Associated Press Monday that 230 new cadets have already been recruited to the force, which is anticipated to reach 30,000 troops in the next several years.

According to the coalition, the core of the force is to be made up of fighters from the existing Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, the coalition's main ally in the fight against Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militants. The SDF currently controls nearly 25 percent of Syrian territory in the north and east.
 

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Russia did what it did in Syria mostly because ISIS cosisted primarily from Chechen (think Tsarnaev), Uzbeck, Tadjick, tjihadists. Those are trained men who can on their return cause havoc, not any more, they went to heaven. We will always have a base in Syria, and Syria will exist as long as we are there. They can train more targets. You see, I wouldn't even be surprised if it's a fvcking tandem pendulum, one side creates retards, the other side kills them.

Had to add, so called oil pipeline for the richest is a wrong idea here. At stake is geopolitics, primarily, and secondly the idea is to kill people, or at least to leave them far behind so they could be killed later. There has to be done a lot of killing, according to georgia guidestones, nuclear war is out of the question, denver international airport gives a clue about a virus. Release a virus that will kill people across the globe, those with vaccine will survive. Pst, Russia has a dead hand computer system which could launch nuclear missiles if this type of sh1t happens.
 

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Middle East involvement has nothing to do with oil....that's a good one :)

We've got a good old-fashioned proxy war going on right now.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/07/politics/us-strikes-pro-regime-forces-syria/index.html
US-led coalition strikes kill pro-regime forces in Syria
Washington (CNN)The US-led coalition fighting ISIS in Syria conducted air and artillery strikes against pro-regime forces in Syria on Wednesday, killing an estimated 100 pro-regime fighters, according to a coalition statement.

The coalition described its action -- which if confirmed could represent the largest number of pro-regime casualties inflicted by the US-led coalition -- as carried out in "self defense."
Syrian state news agency SANA described the action as an "aggression" by the coalition against "popular forces" who were fighting ISIS and the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces. The attack had left "scores of persons dead and others injured" and caused "huge damage" to the area, SANA added.
According to a coalition statement, its strikes were carried out after forces allied with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad "initiated an unprovoked attack" against a well-established Syrian Democratic Forces headquarters where coalition advisers were working with US-backed Syrian fighters.
Some 500 pro-regime troops carried out the attack using artillery, mortar fire and Russian-made tanks "in what appears to be a coordinated attack on Syrian Democratic Forces," US Army Col. Thomas Veale, a spokesman for the US-led coalition told CNN.
Veale said that about "20 to 30 artillery and tank rounds landed within 500 meters" of the Syrian Democratic Forces headquarters before the US-backed fighters and coalition forces "targeted the aggressors with a combination of air and artillery strikes."
The US strikes were carried out by manned and unmanned aircraft as well as a US High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), two US military officials told CNN.
US F-22 stealth jets, F-15 fighters, and MQ-9 drones were involved in the counterattack according to US Air Forces Central Command.
"Along with ground based fire support, these aircraft released multiple precision fire munitions and conducted strafing runs against the aggressor force, stopping their advance and destroying multiple artillery pieces and tanks," Lt. Col. Damien Pickart told CNN.
"We estimate more than 100 Syrian pro-regime forces were killed while engaging (Syrian Democratic Forces) and Coalition forces," a US military official told CNN.
"This action was taken in self-defense," Veale said, adding that pro-regime forces that returned across the river had not been targeted.
 

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America has large shale oil deposits.

Large enough to power America for a few hundred years without ever importing. So the oil argument seems unlikely.

Seems more like a power play over there to checkmate other players.
 

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That shale oil is removed by fracking, which is only profitable when gas is above $2 a gallon. It also wrecks the local environment, has growing opposition, and has made Oklahoma now have more earthquakes than California. My area is a potential site, but the environmentalists are declaring war if it happens, so nothing has been done yet. People have seen too many youtube videos of tap water being lit on fire after fracking waste water contaminates it.

Syria is a pipeline war. Here is a very long article about it: https://www.ecowatch.com/syria-another-pipeline-war-1882180532.html

And America as a country is much different than the powerful interests that control the government. Sure we could live without Mideastern oil, maybe even foreign oil, but what's more important is that the oil and energy companies make big profits. Their interests clearly come before those of the country as a whole.
 

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World prices r down bcoz of shale.

Which is why certain countries like Nigeria r facing hardship.

I forsee the decline of oil.

Oil companies hv forseen it too and is making huge investments in other alternative energy source.

If I was an American policymaker, I will most certainly check the other players in the middle east.
It's to do with power.
The one who has the most power and influence will be able set the pace for the world to follow.
When the world follows, your country and people ultimately benefit from that policy.

It's the same as in a business.

And all countries r just one big company doing business with another company.
 

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-13/u-s-strikes-said-to-kill-scores-of-russian-fighters-in-syria
U.S. Strikes Killed Scores of Russia Fighters in Syria
U.S. forces killed scores of Russian mercenaries in Syria last week in what may be the deadliest clash between citizens of the former foes since the Cold War, according to one U.S. official and three Russians familiar with the matter.

More than 200 contract soldiers, mostly Russians fighting on behalf of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, died in a failed attack on a base held by U.S. and mainly Kurdish forces in the oil-rich Deir Ezzor region

The Russian assault may have been a rogue operation, underscoring the complexity of a conflict that started as a domestic crackdown only to morph into a proxy war involving Islamic extremists, stateless Kurds and regional powers Iran, Turkey and now Israel.
 

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The real death toll is very likely much greater than what is being reported. The Army opened one serious can-o-whoopass.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/verabergengruen/heres-what-we-know-about-the-us-airstrikes-that-killed?utm_term=.oljGg5Wjl#.xpyGX32xp

US officers at the headquarters contacted Russian officials to ask if any Russian military personnel were in the area. "They confirmed that they were not involved in military action in the area," the report said. "After which the Americans never held back."

"They simply routed us," the paper quoted one source as saying. "Artillery first, then helicopters... Of course, the number of fatalities is not 600 or 200. As a result, almost everyone from the 5th assault detachment died, they were burnt together with their hardware.”
 

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How do we know it is true that there were Russians there?
 

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I'd say the social media posts from their grieving relatives are the best evidence.
 

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The real death toll is very likely much greater than what is being reported. The Army opened one serious can-o-whoopass.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/verabergengruen/heres-what-we-know-about-the-us-airstrikes-that-killed?utm_term=.oljGg5Wjl#.xpyGX32xp

US officers at the headquarters contacted Russian officials to ask if any Russian military personnel were in the area. "They confirmed that they were not involved in military action in the area," the report said. "After which the Americans never held back."

"They simply routed us," the paper quoted one source as saying. "Artillery first, then helicopters... Of course, the number of fatalities is not 600 or 200. As a result, almost everyone from the 5th assault detachment died, they were burnt together with their hardware.”
The Russians basically gave permission to whack their own.

And the Americans feeling ecstatic with that news, let go all those pent up feelings that day.

Russian and Chinese mindsets r pretty similar. They r willing to lose hundreds or even thousands of their men to further their agenda.
 

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**Potentially abrasive opinions incoming, particularly regarding religion. Just being earnest with my feelings here, I mean no personal insult if you are religious.**

The whole Middle East is f*cked. Before we even get into the incredibly complex politics, the heart of it is religion. Everyone hates on Islam at the moment because it's flavour of the month. But the truth of it, IMO, is that all organised institutionalised religion is an insidious poison that has been corrupting and warping humanity for centuries.

There is nothing wrong with Man having some kind of generic belief in God, or some sort of divinity. Just in the way there is nothing wrong with having any kind of outlandish blue-sky philosophical idea that you think of every now and then. That's harmless, because it's just a personal belief. No scientist or rationalist can say God doesn't exist. You also cannot prove He/She/It does.

But the moment you start organising, grouping, becoming zealous and believing in one specific religion above all others (for no logical reason either, other than you were raised with it) everything starts going to s***.

In the distant past organised religion served a purpose - to help the young idea of civilisation develop a moral code, to give stop-gap answers to the big philosophical questions. And also, more darkly, to keep the masses placated by those in authority...that was the other purpose.

It's been like that since the Catholic Church, the Crusades, the Latin sermons common people couldn't read. The stake burnings and suppression of science and reason for centuries. You couldn't even study medicine without being burned at the stake at one point.

Yeah, we get charity and kindness from some proponents of organised religion. Some religious people are lovely humans and are amazingly altruistic. But we also get that level of altruism and charity from atheists and agnostics.

Crucially, the other thing religion does right up to the present day is lock us into perpetual wars and acts of terror that will literally never cease because they are based on arguments with no rationality than can never be disproved.

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TLDR:

Your mate Dave never met his father. Dave tells you that he believes that his father is a unicorn, because a man dressed in robes once told him unicorns are real. You give him a weird look and tell him unicorns don't exist and he has absolutely no proof of any of this.

Dave is deeply offended by this. He irately threatens to kill you for not believing in unicorns and questioning their existence. He holds up a really old comic book he has that has unicorns in it. THIS IS PROOF! You argue with Dave for 2000 years but he is INSISTENT he is correct. You will literally never convince him otherwise, because he has his comic book and his unshakable faith in spite of all rational evidence to the contrary.

His friend Jim joins the debate. He holds up a different comic book, believes all the same things...except instead of unicorns he believes in pixies. The two men draw guns and train them on each other. You dive for cover under the table and pray to the Great Sky Tortoise (your own personal religion that is definitely the correct religion) that you will survive.

Dave and Jim are organised, institutionalised religion. They are the Middle East.

(Hope I wasn't patronising btw. I'm drunk and tired. Good night all, ha).
 
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Middle East involvement has nothing to do with oil....that's a good one :)
It does and it doesn’t. The issue is Saudi and OPEC wants all the oil to go through them.
Independent pipelines and market competition is being squashed by OPEC.

Saudi is a huge problem. World wide. They make more money off their money than the oil. It’s just that the oil backs their money. By funneling everything through OPEC, they get to set the price and influences the world’s finances and markets.

Second to banking, they were Hillary’s prime campaign finance gurus.

Saudi is now pumping millions of gallons of sea water into their oil formations underground. This forces the oil in the formations to push to one end of the field so it can be pumped out. This is called secondary recovery.

They know their days are numbered and their market is shaky. OPEC is influencing financial and banking to bring about a monopoly of the Middle East oil like they had in the 80’s and 90’s.

Syria and Russia are not the bad guys in this. They don’t want OPEC and banking to get control of this Middle East commodity.
 
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And the Sec. of Defense resigned in protest. I'm with Trump on this one. I didn't know the US even had 2,000 troops in Syria.
Yeah I read his letter. I served under mad dog in 3bn. 3rd marines.
He was a fine leader. He promoted me to corporal meritoriously and then to sergeant meritoriously in the field.
 
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