"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Surrogate Sex Partners Rising Among Women

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It might sound like something fun but it actually isn't. I don't think you want to go anywhere near the women that have these sort of issues.

It's kinda like being a male gigolo. It might sounds like a great idea then you realize that your customers are fat or ugly women with money who can't get sex any other way.

It's not the hb - 9s that need these services or else every guy would have signed up already :D
 

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Yes let's see some pics of these women before you go and declare a change in careers....
 

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Sue Madre said:
Yes let's see some pics of these women before you go and declare a change in careers....
It's not just the looks, brah. These chicks are damaged from getting sexually abused when they were younger.(In most cases) My EX was this way, coupled with some insecurities about her body; you could imagine how frequent sex was.
 

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joverby said:
It's not just the looks, brah. These chicks are damaged from getting sexually abused when they were younger.(In most cases) My EX was this way, coupled with some insecurities about her body; you could imagine how frequent sex was.

Don't tell me about that drama. My first girlfriend from highschool that I lost my virginity to told me that her FATHER molested her and that is who she lost her virginity to.

Imagine hearing that on the phone? Not a fun time. That chic was whacked and became a lesbian.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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f283000 said:
It might sound like something fun but it actually isn't. I don't think you want to go anywhere near the women that have these sort of issues.

It's kinda like being a male gigolo. It might sounds like a great idea then you realize that your customers are fat or ugly women with money who can't get sex any other way.

It's not the hb - 9s that need these services or else every guy would have signed up already :D
Exactly what f283000 said.

Quoted from straight from the article:

"In his 14 years as a surrogate partner, Rotem has worked with women who have a condition called vaginismus, which makes sex painful, women in their 40s or 50s who are virgins and women who have experienced sexual trauma.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/09/06/use-surrogate-sex-partners-rising-among-women/#ixzz1XKJ4U1Ah"

So you'd either have sex with 40-50 year old virgins (hideous beasts/whales) or have sex with women who can't really enjoy sex.

I wonder though, the article raised the issue that some women had "the right" to orgasms and to feel sexually stimulated....and therefore go to these therapists. Isn't that a bit like prostitution????
 

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Don't tell me about that drama. My first girlfriend from highschool that I lost my virginity to told me that her FATHER molested her and that is who she lost her virginity to.

Imagine hearing that on the phone? Not a fun time. That chic was whacked and became a lesbian.
Ya, I found out through text after she refused to tell me on the phone. It was her "brothers friend" which I think really meant her brother. But who knows. Funny my EX was also Bi and I think had a lesbo escapade in highschool.
 

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"In his 14 years as a surrogate partner, Rotem has worked with women who have a condition called vaginismus, which makes sex painful, women in their 40s or 50s who are virgins and women who have experienced sexual trauma."


I dated a chic like that. She was a track star at my college. She gave the best head ever but she was crazy as hell. She ended up going in the army and becoming a lesbian.
 
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