"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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sure thing...i thought....

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So I go to a party with my boy and this chick is there who I had met months ago at a bar with friends. She had a boyfriend at the time, I didn't talk to her much. When my buddy introduced us she says "I met you a long time ago at x club, remember", i say yes, but was surprised she did because she must meet a ton of guys. She then says I saw you at school the other day. I ask "why didn't you say hi?" She replies "didn't think you would remember me, didnt want to seem weird".

Now I'm getting interested vibes the whole night from her. She asks if im comming snowboarding with them when they all go. She tells me i should go to a bar she is going to the next day. We make a friendly bet about racing in snowboarding and she says the loser takes the winner out to a nice lunch. We talk back and forth throughout the night, but im not all over her, make her laugh and bust on her a bit. I was kind of aloof because my extremely AFC friend followed her round ALL night, and i didn't want to be associated with that. I'm sitting on a big chair and she sits next to me, pressed up against me. Her friends try to get her to dance but she desperately says no and falls back into me. I get her number and as i see its getting late(5am), i say i should leave. She says she will leave too. Gives me a hug and walks away, but looks back for some strong eye contact for a few seconds. This happened sat. night.

Call her on tue, doesnt pick up so i text to say it was me who called. Texts me back and says she was in the gym, whatsup? I dont like this because i wanted to speak to her, build more rapport, but whatever. I tell her lets get together Thur (as that was my only free day). She says she is working the night shift but is off wed. I say well maybe we can get together wed when im done with my stuff...she says she will let me know cause she got invited to a bball game. Kind of annoyed since i dont like the whole "ill elt you know sh!t girls pull, so i say "hey if you jsut dont want to you can say no, this isnt a big deal" (my mistake maybe?) She says its not that at all i just got invited to the game.

Wed i text her asking whatsup. She replies simply going to the game tonight and i say "awesome have fun!" She replies right after askin what im doing tonight. Well OBV i dont have plans since i was JUST trying to make them with YOU! I lie and say goin to party, her n friends can come after game if they want. Says she will let me know what shes doin after the game. I never hear from her.

What happened here? She seemed interested at the party. Initiating convo, laughing at dumb jokes, being in proximity to me, very light kino between the two of us. I honestly thought it was a SURE thing to go out with her, and i have plenty of experience so i usually know.

Should i try again? Usually if iget rejected i stop trying, i dont want to be THAT guy. But i know so many guys who have gotten the girls by keep trying. She was legitimately busy which is fine, but hte fact she never got back to me with her plans made me think she wasnt interested. Should i try again one more time for next week???
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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pua1989

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honestly man, i think you played it real well. if this girl is a BABE then hell, why not try one last time? if she gives you the run around then, id stop talkin to her and maybe shell come around once she realizes you arent gonna chase her

btw, yea i wouldnt have said the "just say if you dont wanna" text thing but i dont think that was too detrimental to you
 

SamMalone

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Give her one more chance. If she flakes then forget about her. Sometimes things do come up so you can't just assume disinterest after one try.
 

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yea the girls def dope so ill try again. I said hte "you can jsut say no if you dont want to" thing because i dont feel like wasting my time. Ive wasted my time before with girls so i guess it was just an attempt to see if she would say ok i just dont want to. I understand that she's busy, thats fine. The part i dont get is she seemed def interested, then didn't really text me back at all. And like i said, im always right when i think a girl is interested in me. Def try again though.
 

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learn this...................the only sure thing with women is that nothing is for sure...
they can change their minds from one second to the next without having a single reason to do so....thats the reason why spinning plates give us such a peace of mind.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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haha yeahh good tip librito...def gonna keep that in mind, cause youre right.

any suggestions on what to say next time i call her? mention that we couldnt get together?? jsut play it normal?? i think i just answered my question...probably just play it calm and cool
 

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giving the girl an easy way to say 'no' isnt a good idea cause a lot of them will say no reactively to avoid confrontation for a lot of lame reasons. ultimatums arent good to give
 

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yeaa definitely i wont say anything like that anymore. Planning on calling her next week sometime....maybe midweek. Might send a flirty text before that see how she responds.
 

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update, in case you guys care....

sent her a text saying:

"hey i decided that since you live in (x city) you can take me to (x place) since it is one of my favorite restaurants haha"

she lives right near one of the restaurants i really like...trying to be c&f a little here

her response..."ok we will have to go then, my sis actually works there too"
so i tell her ill call her this week and she says okay
 
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