"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Suiting up for no special occasion.

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Long story short: when I first got out of graduate school, I took a job as a stock broker. At the time, I bought a few suites and put together a pretty nice shirt and tie collection to go along with them. I got out of the industry rather quickly (got hit pretty hard by the Hurricane season of 2005, shop was closed a lot as were shops we worked with... a lot of private equity management as well...., working on commissions, just starting out, trouble making ends meet) and took a regular 9-6 job that was business casual.

To be honest, I really liked wearing suits and I feel good when I'm in one. Lately, I have taken to wearing a suit around town when running errands, going out to nicer bars, etc and I like looks I get from women. I think that soo many men dress sloppy these days that the presence of a suit is a nice change. Also, from wearing them every day for a while, I've become at ease in it and don't feel or ack any awkward or different then wearing jeans and a tshirt. I don't dress overly fancy, but make sure there's something interesting I'm wearing, be it a nice shirt with a subtle tie and subtle suit.....nice tie with a subtle shirt, etc., you get the idea....quite often open collar with no tie as well.

Does anyone else ever do this or am I the only weird person out there?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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i dont think its weird at all.

i dont wear the whole suit, but when i go out i am always in a shirt/sweater with a button up and nice tie with a sports coat.

i keep the slacks and whole suit for work, but loose the slacks and throw on some nice jeans, and you look very clean yet not so "tight"

i get compliments every time i go out.
 

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I do wear a shirt w/tie and jeans or sometimes dresspants but not a whole suit and this is kinda rare when I do it. It does get you looks and all.
 

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JeeperCane said:
Long story short: when I first got out of graduate school, I took a job as a stock broker. At the time, I bought a few suites and put together a pretty nice shirt and tie collection to go along with them. I got out of the industry rather quickly (got hit pretty hard by the Hurricane season of 2005, shop was closed a lot as were shops we worked with... a lot of private equity management as well...., working on commissions, just starting out, trouble making ends meet) and took a regular 9-6 job that was business casual.

To be honest, I really liked wearing suits and I feel good when I'm in one. Lately, I have taken to wearing a suit around town when running errands, going out to nicer bars, etc and I like looks I get from women. I think that soo many men dress sloppy these days that the presence of a suit is a nice change. Also, from wearing them every day for a while, I've become at ease in it and don't feel or ack any awkward or different then wearing jeans and a tshirt. I don't dress overly fancy, but make sure there's something interesting I'm wearing, be it a nice shirt with a subtle tie and subtle suit.....nice tie with a subtle shirt, etc., you get the idea....quite often open collar with no tie as well.

Does anyone else ever do this or am I the only weird person out there?
Finally someone gets it.

ALWAYS dress like a million bucks. You don't need a special occasion for it.
 

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ChrizZ said:
Finally someone gets it.

ALWAYS dress like a million bucks. You don't need a special occasion for it.
Thanks dude! I completely agree. That and I've got these great cloths sitting in my closet, so why not wear them?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Have you seen mystery and other puas like juggler? they all wear sports coats/blazers/suits. What you're doing is not strange at all! a suit/sports coat makes you seem fashionable and gives you a sense of style + it is a great peacock item.

There is something mysterious to a girl about a guy that wears a suit with jeans and tennis shoes on. He means business but is also down to earth and fun at the same time. This week I bought my first sports coat and I love it! got looks the minute I started wearing it. I sport it with jeans, tennis shoes and yes my cheap $20 shirts ;) That is the power of these things, you can wear them over a cheap k-mart shirt and make you seem fashionable. Nobody can call me cheap since I can wear any shirt and over that a $100 something dollar sports coat.

They are great peacock items since young guys wearing them is very rare. Not only that but they give the impression to girls that you have money since they aren't cheap. Don't be ashamed of wearing them. Do know that most young guys grew up with hip hop culture so wearing something dressy like a sports coat/suit is not their thing so you might get playa hataz. I personally loved mob movies when I was little so I always admired guys wearing suits which I saw a lot in those movies.

Tomorrow i'm going to get my second sports coat since I liked the first so much I know i'll be wearing one every time I go out so I need more than 1. My wallet is getting thinner :(
 

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Joe The Homophobe said:
Have you seen mystery and other puas like juggler? they all wear sports coats/blazers/suits. What you're doing is not strange at all! a suit/sports coat makes you seem fashionable and gives you a sense of style + it is a great peacock item.

There is something mysterious to a girl about a guy that wears a suit with jeans and tennis shoes on. He means business but is also down to earth at the same time. This week I bought my first sports coat and I love it! got looks the minute I started wearing it. I sport it with jeans, tennis shoes and yes my cheap $20 shirts ;)
no, never wear a suit with jeans and tennis shoes.

This is how I dress...
http://www.kinomaniak.pl/filmy/oceans_eleven/tapeta1_1024x768.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/img/review/011214/oceans_l.jpg
http://kinoportal.net/movies/O/Oceans_Thirteen_13/stills/1sep.jpg

This is what commands attention and makes b!tches pu$$ies wet.

You have to look like you are rich and like a man that is going somewhere in life.

Trust me on this.
 

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ChrizZ said:
no, never wear a suit with jeans and tennis shoes.

This is how I dress...
http://www.kinomaniak.pl/filmy/oceans_eleven/tapeta1_1024x768.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/img/review/011214/oceans_l.jpg
http://kinoportal.net/movies/O/Oceans_Thirteen_13/stills/1sep.jpg

This is what commands attention and makes b!tches pu$$ies wet.

You have to look like you are rich and like a man that is going somewhere in life.

Trust me on this.
Their style is indeed great. But, if i'd take that to a club or bar i'd feel overdressed.
 

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snowdog said:
Their style is indeed great. But, if i'd take that to a club or bar i'd feel overdressed.
Totally wrong mindset.

Dress up like that for one night and go to a bar or club and then report back.

Scratch that. ALWAYS dress like that whenever you leave the door.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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we shouldn't be debating this! a suit with jeans on or a suit with dress pants is still better than what 99% of guys wear out there. The suit/sports coat is what makes the whole thing.
 

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DjDan said:
never wear tennis shoes when you wear a suit.

buy at least some $100 ALDOs if you are wearing a suit, if you have more money some Distefano or Artioli or Mezlan
Mystery wears tennis shoes with suits if not mistaken.
 

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Joe The Homophobe said:
Mystery wears tennis shoes with suits if not mistaken.
yes and he also wear fury hats and high heels.
 

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Nothing says "power" or "alpha" like a fine tailored suit. It also conveys that you've got either serious responsibilities, or have money.

Personally I don't like wearing ties socially, but I've seen guys who pull off the "causal" tie look very well.

Thumps up for the suit.
 

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DjDan said:
never wear tennis shoes when you wear a suit.

buy at least some $100 ALDOs if you are wearing a suit, if you have more money some Distefano or Artioli or Mezlan
Agreed. If I'm going to drop over a grand on a suit, I'm going to have it tailored and tailored to fit a nice pair of shoes at that. To me, wearing tennis shoes with a suit says "don't take my suit too seriously"....which really conveys "don't take me too seriously" and chicks won't.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I love wearing suits, so no you aren't the only one.

Agree on the no tennis shoes with a suit as well. I've never even seen this, but the image it conjures in my head is pretty ridiculous.
 

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If you're a grown man who is a hot shot stock-broker, then hell yeah, wear those nice suits. If you're not, don't try to fool anyone.
 

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The Deacon said:
If you're a grown man who is a hot shot stock-broker, then hell yeah, wear those nice suits. If you're not, don't try to fool anyone.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a hot-shot stock broker. Most hot-shot stockbrokers may wear suits, but that doesn't necessarily mean they dress well by the way. I'm in the business world, but no longer in private equity management. I'm not trying to fool anyone or make any mention of what I do for a job; I just want to dress well, make an impression and enjoy some of the cloths I have purchased, yet don't always get the opportunity to wear.
 

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What I'm writing is NOT in any way, shape or form trying to sound mean to ANY of the previous posters:

I think there is a genuine age-disconnect between what some of the posters who, like me, feel that the entire suit should be worn vs. what some of the other posters feel, which is that you can trade the pants for jeans. I think the older guys will opt of the whole suit....but that just my opinion. Also, from reading what the pro-jeans group is mentioning, they are more into the genuine "club" scene. There's nothing wrong with that at all, it's just not my scene. I've always tended to hang out in darker, quieter haunts. Hardly ever a true "club" but mostly nicer bars. Again, this is just personal preference. I also can't dance at all, so that my add to my choice of venue as well.

In the end, we're almost literally splitting hairs in regards to whether or not jeans are appropriate with a sports coat. Also, in the end, I'm sure all of you guys who contributed to this thread are looking far better then the rest of the shmucks around you. When given the choice though, regarding the places I frequent and my style, I'll take the full suit...maybe sans tie.... but definitely the full suit. Maybe some of the older guys will concur with me........or maybe I'm completely wrong.
 

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JeeperCane said:
What I'm writing is NOT in any way, shape or form trying to sound mean to ANY of the previous posters:

I think there is a genuine age-disconnect between what some of the posters who, like me, feel that the entire suit should be worn vs. what some of the other posters feel, which is that you can trade the pants for jeans. I think the older guys will opt of the whole suit....but that just my opinion. Also, from reading what the pro-jeans group is mentioning, they are more into the genuine "club" scene. There's nothing wrong with that at all, it's just not my scene.
not at all. I didn't start buying sports coats to wear them to clubs. I bought them to wear them everyday. To wear them in college, to the store, everytime I go out of the house basically. It is difficult to wear the whole suit specially if you're a student. It might be easier for you since you worked at a place where such is required, but to us regular joes and students it is more confortable to wear them over jeans.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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