"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Suiting up for no special occasion.

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Long story short: when I first got out of graduate school, I took a job as a stock broker. At the time, I bought a few suites and put together a pretty nice shirt and tie collection to go along with them. I got out of the industry rather quickly (got hit pretty hard by the Hurricane season of 2005, shop was closed a lot as were shops we worked with... a lot of private equity management as well...., working on commissions, just starting out, trouble making ends meet) and took a regular 9-6 job that was business casual.

To be honest, I really liked wearing suits and I feel good when I'm in one. Lately, I have taken to wearing a suit around town when running errands, going out to nicer bars, etc and I like looks I get from women. I think that soo many men dress sloppy these days that the presence of a suit is a nice change. Also, from wearing them every day for a while, I've become at ease in it and don't feel or ack any awkward or different then wearing jeans and a tshirt. I don't dress overly fancy, but make sure there's something interesting I'm wearing, be it a nice shirt with a subtle tie and subtle suit.....nice tie with a subtle shirt, etc., you get the idea....quite often open collar with no tie as well.

Does anyone else ever do this or am I the only weird person out there?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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i dont think its weird at all.

i dont wear the whole suit, but when i go out i am always in a shirt/sweater with a button up and nice tie with a sports coat.

i keep the slacks and whole suit for work, but loose the slacks and throw on some nice jeans, and you look very clean yet not so "tight"

i get compliments every time i go out.
 

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I do wear a shirt w/tie and jeans or sometimes dresspants but not a whole suit and this is kinda rare when I do it. It does get you looks and all.
 

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JeeperCane said:
Long story short: when I first got out of graduate school, I took a job as a stock broker. At the time, I bought a few suites and put together a pretty nice shirt and tie collection to go along with them. I got out of the industry rather quickly (got hit pretty hard by the Hurricane season of 2005, shop was closed a lot as were shops we worked with... a lot of private equity management as well...., working on commissions, just starting out, trouble making ends meet) and took a regular 9-6 job that was business casual.

To be honest, I really liked wearing suits and I feel good when I'm in one. Lately, I have taken to wearing a suit around town when running errands, going out to nicer bars, etc and I like looks I get from women. I think that soo many men dress sloppy these days that the presence of a suit is a nice change. Also, from wearing them every day for a while, I've become at ease in it and don't feel or ack any awkward or different then wearing jeans and a tshirt. I don't dress overly fancy, but make sure there's something interesting I'm wearing, be it a nice shirt with a subtle tie and subtle suit.....nice tie with a subtle shirt, etc., you get the idea....quite often open collar with no tie as well.

Does anyone else ever do this or am I the only weird person out there?
Finally someone gets it.

ALWAYS dress like a million bucks. You don't need a special occasion for it.
 

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ChrizZ said:
Finally someone gets it.

ALWAYS dress like a million bucks. You don't need a special occasion for it.
Thanks dude! I completely agree. That and I've got these great cloths sitting in my closet, so why not wear them?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Have you seen mystery and other puas like juggler? they all wear sports coats/blazers/suits. What you're doing is not strange at all! a suit/sports coat makes you seem fashionable and gives you a sense of style + it is a great peacock item.

There is something mysterious to a girl about a guy that wears a suit with jeans and tennis shoes on. He means business but is also down to earth and fun at the same time. This week I bought my first sports coat and I love it! got looks the minute I started wearing it. I sport it with jeans, tennis shoes and yes my cheap $20 shirts ;) That is the power of these things, you can wear them over a cheap k-mart shirt and make you seem fashionable. Nobody can call me cheap since I can wear any shirt and over that a $100 something dollar sports coat.

They are great peacock items since young guys wearing them is very rare. Not only that but they give the impression to girls that you have money since they aren't cheap. Don't be ashamed of wearing them. Do know that most young guys grew up with hip hop culture so wearing something dressy like a sports coat/suit is not their thing so you might get playa hataz. I personally loved mob movies when I was little so I always admired guys wearing suits which I saw a lot in those movies.

Tomorrow i'm going to get my second sports coat since I liked the first so much I know i'll be wearing one every time I go out so I need more than 1. My wallet is getting thinner :(
 

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Joe The Homophobe said:
Have you seen mystery and other puas like juggler? they all wear sports coats/blazers/suits. What you're doing is not strange at all! a suit/sports coat makes you seem fashionable and gives you a sense of style + it is a great peacock item.

There is something mysterious to a girl about a guy that wears a suit with jeans and tennis shoes on. He means business but is also down to earth at the same time. This week I bought my first sports coat and I love it! got looks the minute I started wearing it. I sport it with jeans, tennis shoes and yes my cheap $20 shirts ;)
no, never wear a suit with jeans and tennis shoes.

This is how I dress...
http://www.kinomaniak.pl/filmy/oceans_eleven/tapeta1_1024x768.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/img/review/011214/oceans_l.jpg
http://kinoportal.net/movies/O/Oceans_Thirteen_13/stills/1sep.jpg

This is what commands attention and makes b!tches pu$$ies wet.

You have to look like you are rich and like a man that is going somewhere in life.

Trust me on this.
 

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ChrizZ said:
no, never wear a suit with jeans and tennis shoes.

This is how I dress...
http://www.kinomaniak.pl/filmy/oceans_eleven/tapeta1_1024x768.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/img/review/011214/oceans_l.jpg
http://kinoportal.net/movies/O/Oceans_Thirteen_13/stills/1sep.jpg

This is what commands attention and makes b!tches pu$$ies wet.

You have to look like you are rich and like a man that is going somewhere in life.

Trust me on this.
Their style is indeed great. But, if i'd take that to a club or bar i'd feel overdressed.
 

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snowdog said:
Their style is indeed great. But, if i'd take that to a club or bar i'd feel overdressed.
Totally wrong mindset.

Dress up like that for one night and go to a bar or club and then report back.

Scratch that. ALWAYS dress like that whenever you leave the door.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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we shouldn't be debating this! a suit with jeans on or a suit with dress pants is still better than what 99% of guys wear out there. The suit/sports coat is what makes the whole thing.
 

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DjDan said:
never wear tennis shoes when you wear a suit.

buy at least some $100 ALDOs if you are wearing a suit, if you have more money some Distefano or Artioli or Mezlan
Mystery wears tennis shoes with suits if not mistaken.
 

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Joe The Homophobe said:
Mystery wears tennis shoes with suits if not mistaken.
yes and he also wear fury hats and high heels.
 

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Nothing says "power" or "alpha" like a fine tailored suit. It also conveys that you've got either serious responsibilities, or have money.

Personally I don't like wearing ties socially, but I've seen guys who pull off the "causal" tie look very well.

Thumps up for the suit.
 

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DjDan said:
never wear tennis shoes when you wear a suit.

buy at least some $100 ALDOs if you are wearing a suit, if you have more money some Distefano or Artioli or Mezlan
Agreed. If I'm going to drop over a grand on a suit, I'm going to have it tailored and tailored to fit a nice pair of shoes at that. To me, wearing tennis shoes with a suit says "don't take my suit too seriously"....which really conveys "don't take me too seriously" and chicks won't.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I love wearing suits, so no you aren't the only one.

Agree on the no tennis shoes with a suit as well. I've never even seen this, but the image it conjures in my head is pretty ridiculous.
 

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If you're a grown man who is a hot shot stock-broker, then hell yeah, wear those nice suits. If you're not, don't try to fool anyone.
 

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The Deacon said:
If you're a grown man who is a hot shot stock-broker, then hell yeah, wear those nice suits. If you're not, don't try to fool anyone.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a hot-shot stock broker. Most hot-shot stockbrokers may wear suits, but that doesn't necessarily mean they dress well by the way. I'm in the business world, but no longer in private equity management. I'm not trying to fool anyone or make any mention of what I do for a job; I just want to dress well, make an impression and enjoy some of the cloths I have purchased, yet don't always get the opportunity to wear.
 

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What I'm writing is NOT in any way, shape or form trying to sound mean to ANY of the previous posters:

I think there is a genuine age-disconnect between what some of the posters who, like me, feel that the entire suit should be worn vs. what some of the other posters feel, which is that you can trade the pants for jeans. I think the older guys will opt of the whole suit....but that just my opinion. Also, from reading what the pro-jeans group is mentioning, they are more into the genuine "club" scene. There's nothing wrong with that at all, it's just not my scene. I've always tended to hang out in darker, quieter haunts. Hardly ever a true "club" but mostly nicer bars. Again, this is just personal preference. I also can't dance at all, so that my add to my choice of venue as well.

In the end, we're almost literally splitting hairs in regards to whether or not jeans are appropriate with a sports coat. Also, in the end, I'm sure all of you guys who contributed to this thread are looking far better then the rest of the shmucks around you. When given the choice though, regarding the places I frequent and my style, I'll take the full suit...maybe sans tie.... but definitely the full suit. Maybe some of the older guys will concur with me........or maybe I'm completely wrong.
 

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JeeperCane said:
What I'm writing is NOT in any way, shape or form trying to sound mean to ANY of the previous posters:

I think there is a genuine age-disconnect between what some of the posters who, like me, feel that the entire suit should be worn vs. what some of the other posters feel, which is that you can trade the pants for jeans. I think the older guys will opt of the whole suit....but that just my opinion. Also, from reading what the pro-jeans group is mentioning, they are more into the genuine "club" scene. There's nothing wrong with that at all, it's just not my scene.
not at all. I didn't start buying sports coats to wear them to clubs. I bought them to wear them everyday. To wear them in college, to the store, everytime I go out of the house basically. It is difficult to wear the whole suit specially if you're a student. It might be easier for you since you worked at a place where such is required, but to us regular joes and students it is more confortable to wear them over jeans.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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