Dude you are missing the point. It's not about money or being cheaper it's that guys are taking chicks to coffee shops all the time now. I haven't spent more then 10 bucks on first dates in a couple of years now and I haven't been going to coffee shops.
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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Suggesting a coffee date\meetup a bad move?
- Thread starter DJorBUST
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
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Master Don Juan
Well saidFrancisco d'Anconia said:
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I MAKE IT CLEAR TO HOS THAT THIS AINT A DATE.... I JUST WANY CHILL WITH YOU A MIN. AND GET TO KNOW YOU AND SEE IF YOU ARE COOL OR NOT... yup
Hey, maybe that's why armadon takes them hiking?
As for me, I'm not missing your point at all. I completely understand your point. But my questions still remain: what happens if she shows up and she's a psycho? What happens if she's misrepresented herself and weighs 50 pounds more? What if she turns out to be humorless and gives you a hard time? With a meet over coffee, you're out of there fast. With a hike planned, traveling to the hike area and back, you're stuck unless you dump her.
There's pros and cons to everything, and it's just that with the online thing, there's more pros to cons to set up a meet over coffee. And there's lots of women that feel the same way, rather than be stuck uncomfortably with some guy that turns out to be a creep.
As to your point, once mutual chemistry is known, interest is there on both sides and you actually like each other THEN you can move on to the more interesting hiking dates.
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Don't tell her "let me know", and don't waffle with "sometime". You're the man, you lead, and don't leave it up to her to decide. Tell her "meet me at x place at x time and we'll have coffee". If she's not free, suggest another time, but don't end up going through with her on every day, that's just lame and will make you look desperate. It might be useful to say you're busy on a day she suggests (even if you aren't), so you can define the when and where on your own terms.DJorBUST said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.