Powersurgeon
Don Juan
I had two jobs, lost one. I still have to pay alimony and mortgage. I'm a surgeon. Any advice of how to overcome getting fired?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Suddenly lost 60% of my income for good.
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
PrettyBoyAJ
Master Don Juan
How much did you make? how much are you making now?
Powersurgeon
Don Juan
Well, I live in Mexico, so in dollars would be $34,871.94/y before, $13,948.83/y now. $4,882.09/y alimony, $2789.75/y mortgage. The remaining is to survive.
PrettyBoyAJ
Master Don Juan
What kind of surgeon are you that makes that little money? You need to look for a better profession.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Powersurgeon
Don Juan
I know you are surprised but that is average income for a physician in Mexico. That's why we need to have two or three jobs to support a family.
amazingswayze
Master Don Juan
"According to the Time Magazine, an average annual salary for a general practice physician in Mexico ranges from between $39,000 to $50,000 per year. An average hourly wage for a physician in Mexico averages from between $13 to $17 per hour. It has been reported that physicians with advanced specialization and surgeons receive a much higher salary ranging from between $91,000 to $230,000 per annum. An average hourly wage for the specialist physicians in Mexico is around $25 per hour whereas a general practice physician receives an hourly wage of about $21 per hour."
Your skill set demands more $. Why haven't you moved somewhere where you have a higher earning potential yet? C'mon man, you can do better.
Your skill set demands more $. Why haven't you moved somewhere where you have a higher earning potential yet? C'mon man, you can do better.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
Can you get child support and alimony reduced, since your income is down?
Powersurgeon
Don Juan
Then moving out is the answer. I'll start searching in that direction.
To @amazingswayze Time Magazine is lying. There's no way a general practice physician makes $90000/y in Mexico, even in private practice. All that numbers are just false.
To @amazingswayze Time Magazine is lying. There's no way a general practice physician makes $90000/y in Mexico, even in private practice. All that numbers are just false.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Powersurgeon
Don Juan
I thought of that at first, but according to my research trying that will be a waste of tume and money since women (legally) always have the last word about that.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Isn't it stupid that immigration laws apply to doctors? What country is going to benefit by keeping a doctor out?
Stagger Lee
Master Don Juan
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That's because the upper class protect their incomes but flood the middle and lower class with foreign competition.
I didn't know Mexico had alimony and child support. I guess every where has become feminist.
logicallefty
Moderator
I NEVER used to believe this kind of crap until 1-2 years ago. But seeing now just how low of a PoS our Government can be, consider this: Why keep a doctor out? Less doctors = a less healthy population leading to less people alive that the Government has to support on welfare/food stamps etc = more money for the Government.
Prime_Beef
Don Juan
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Hmmm..thought things were more lucrative. My neighbor, a Mexican American was riding his atv out I Baja CA a few years back.he came around a trail, someone had strung up barbed wire. Got him real good, nearly curb his left arm, under the arm pit off! Deep cut, chest as well, partner the neck. First thing the doctor said.." do you have $5000?" He swore he could get it and singed his truck over as collateral before the surgeon started, then packaged him for emergency transport to the US. No usa la mordita ahora? 
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Tenacity
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Can you just move to another country, such as the US? I know damn well you will demand a higher pay for that in the US, the healthcare system is booming right now.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
My experience with immigration authorities was pre-9/11, back when they were called INS. My wife of the time was here on a student visa, until we got married so she could get a green card. Her family is loaded; her uncle was the former Prime Minister of her country. She was doing a Master's in counseling. She had zero criminal record. And INS never failed to treat her like an illegal immigrant criminal. 3-4 hour hold times when we tried to call them, and then when you do get through, every person there tells you a different story. Our immigration policy is to treat everyone like sh!t, so the people who might actually contribute to society get harassed like a criminal and don't want to tolerate it.
LiveFreeX
Banned
Having lived in Mexico, I'm guessing you are living WAAAAAY beyond your means.
I lived in PUERTO VALLARTA in a 3 bedroom apartment BESIDE THE BEACH for 3000 pesos per month and it only cost me another 2000 pesos for food.
If you were to move to an upper tier city like Guadalajara you could rent yourself a nice house in a good end of town for 2500 to 3000 pesos per month and if you were so inclined you could live in a place like TOLUCA for next to nothing. I rented a 2 bedroom apartment in Metepec for 1500 pesos per month... I think I must have paid 300 to 500 pesos per month for food.
If you are willing to go 4th tier then you could EASILY swing a small house for 500 pesos per month for rent.
I'm from Canada, and If I can make it in Mexico with no experience, no friends, no work and no Spanish, there is absolutely no reason you can't do the same.
You would be an idiot to move to the west, Mexico has more heart and culture than all the western countries combined, not to mention it still has a stable family structure with a government and criminal syndicate that aren't about to let anybody step on the cross.
I lived in PUERTO VALLARTA in a 3 bedroom apartment BESIDE THE BEACH for 3000 pesos per month and it only cost me another 2000 pesos for food.
If you were to move to an upper tier city like Guadalajara you could rent yourself a nice house in a good end of town for 2500 to 3000 pesos per month and if you were so inclined you could live in a place like TOLUCA for next to nothing. I rented a 2 bedroom apartment in Metepec for 1500 pesos per month... I think I must have paid 300 to 500 pesos per month for food.
If you are willing to go 4th tier then you could EASILY swing a small house for 500 pesos per month for rent.
I'm from Canada, and If I can make it in Mexico with no experience, no friends, no work and no Spanish, there is absolutely no reason you can't do the same.
You would be an idiot to move to the west, Mexico has more heart and culture than all the western countries combined, not to mention it still has a stable family structure with a government and criminal syndicate that aren't about to let anybody step on the cross.
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sodbuster
Master Don Juan
My other questions are what is stopping you from finding a second job again OR starting a private practice? What is stopping you from moving INSIDE Mexico? Another city and work 2 jobs? I can't believe you are just willing to take it lying down.
Powersurgeon
Don Juan
Although not completely discarded is not that easy. The hard part would be repeating all my postgraduate education (6 years) because it has no validity in the US. (or in any first world country for that matter)
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.