"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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timmylivingalie

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Any guys ever in a relationship **** relationship with a submissive woman? There was a chic a couple years back wanted me to be her dom. I was just too vanilla and had no experience in this sort of thing. So I didnt get with her.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Scars

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You probably dodged a bullet.

From my experience, any woman who is "submissive", ESPECIALLY at the beginning of a relationship is generally borderline. She's trying hard to please you, and may in fact be mirroring exactly what you want/she thinks you want. These woman aren't being submissive, they are trying to suck you in. They probably came from a history of abusive relationships, or were abused by their parents. Expect to see/hear some fvcked up sh!t from this woman if you continue to pursue her.

-Scars
 

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Dear Timmy,
All said and done,they make a good Plate.
 

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You should define more accurately what she asked for, she asked you for being rough or that stuff with the black dress and the whip?

I once had an argue with my gf after she toke a decision without asking me, so I pushed her against her car and bended her (as a standing doggy style) just to show who was in charge and later she told me that behaviour turned her on and asked for some "rough" things sometime.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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timmylivingalie

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There was one that wanted the rough stuff whips and all that she was older and knew what she wanted. One younger girl I met wanted to be sub and I mentioned some of those things and she was freaked out by it. I wondered if the younger chick was testing me.
 

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timmylivingalie said:
There was one that wanted the rough stuff whips and all that she was older and knew what she wanted. One younger girl I met wanted to be sub and I mentioned some of those things and she was freaked out by it. I wondered if the younger chick was testing me.
Most (all?) women want to be dominated sexually. It's their natural role. That's why they almost universally like to have their hair pulled, be spanked, thrown around a bit, etc. Some take it further than others.

Some girls will say they like it rough, but they're thinking of nothing further than what I mentioned above. They're genuinely shocked by anything more. I suspect that was the case with the younger girl you encounted - she was a little more naive than she thought. I don't think she was testing you.
 

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Scars said:
From my experience, any woman who is "submissive", ESPECIALLY at the beginning of a relationship is generally borderline. She's trying hard to please you, and may in fact be mirroring exactly what you want/she thinks you want. These woman aren't being submissive, they are trying to suck you in. They probably came from a history of abusive relationships, or were abused by their parents. Expect to see/hear some fvcked up sh!t from this woman if you continue to pursue her.

-Scars
Your experience is limited at best.

Perhaps she truly wanted to experience her submissive slvt. Problem that most women come to is finding a man with the proper authority, patience and extreme perseverance to push her past, what she believes to be, her limits.

I've been Dom to a few women. Two I've completely allowed themselves to indulge in their absolute submissive state. One I trained to squirt by the scent of my cigar smoke.

They're not dogs. They're b!tches. They're b!tches in heat. It's taken me years to get to the point where I'm not content giving her what she wants, I give her what she secretly craves.

And they return that gratitude with utter obedience and attendance to my teachings.

There's a subtle dynamic between a Dom and Sub which teeters between rewarding her emotionally and spiritually with care and attentiveness, and rewarding her with pain and physical exhaustion.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Your experience is limited at best.

Perhaps she truly wanted to experience her submissive slvt. Problem that most women come to is finding a man with the proper authority, patience and extreme perseverance to push her past, what she believes to be, her limits.

I've been Dom to a few women. Two I've completely allowed themselves to indulge in their absolute submissive state. One I trained to squirt by the scent of my cigar smoke.

They're not dogs. They're b!tches. They're b!tches in heat. It's taken me years to get to the point where I'm not content giving her what she wants, I give her what she secretly craves.

And they return that gratitude with utter obedience and attendance to my teachings.

There's a subtle dynamic between a Dom and Sub which teeters between rewarding her emotionally and spiritually with care and attentiveness, and rewarding her with pain and physical exhaustion.
You trained her to squirt with cigar smoke? Now I have my own methods, but this one has me curious. Seems like you should get out of your present occupation and become a magician in Vegas.

Pass along your technique brother Karma. I'll go get me some cee gars in the meantime just in case. :D
 

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Spot on

zekko said:
Most (all?) women want to be dominated sexually. It's their natural role. That's why they almost universally like to have their hair pulled, be spanked, thrown around a bit, etc. Some take it further than others.

Some girls will say they like it rough, but they're thinking of nothing further than what I mentioned above. They're genuinely shocked by anything more. I suspect that was the case with the younger girl you encounted - she was a little more naive than she thought. I don't think she was testing you.
YEAH!! It should be rough just like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srf3a8NtJjM&feature=related

Make the hoe say "help me!!!" :rockon:
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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timmylivingalie

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Seems it would be have a lot of perks if you had her to where she would do anything to please you.
 
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