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Ok fastseduction.com/discussion is not posting my messages properly. I'll write this here. Any comments appreciated.


Here's a place to put all the **** I want so that I can post lay reports in the other areas.

Yesterday:

I figured this would be better! I had such success with 18 approaches the day before that yesterday was a bit of a disappointment.

But, as one 'master' put it:

'yah its very true, the only thing i find hard is keeping it it, yet other days for some reason i cant be bothered, andconsistent. some days i can talk to anyone anywhere and really enjoy it takes a real effort."

Anyway, I did manage to do some approaches. The first one was during work hours. I couldn't get into the office for a while so i walked around. I spotted a chick while I was in a building and saw her walking. I know that it's easier to approach when the chick is stopped so I watched her to see where she would go. She eventually comes into the place and I pretend to open a door to a theater. I ask her which way to go and again, she is super receptive. She is really willing to talk and we make our way to the theater. We fluff and I try to (take advice!) and go for the # close without asking her for it in an indirect way. She has a boyfriend and lives across the water. So she declines. I ask her for eMail and she declines saying she isnt here long enough. NEXT
In malls. I approach (yes getting better) at koreans. I go up to one and ask about shirt sizes... pretty receptive but hard to transition to a real convo.
In a food mart, grab a map as a prob and ask for directions. etc, but again hard to transition. another one, this time on the street holding a map, but no transition. After a while started in the library again and went up to a chinese girl. The problem here was this was my first cold approach for some time, and as formhandle mention its important to get warmed up.

Unfortunately i just didnt seem to get warmed up, despite a number of approaches. Finally this chick just says, "Oh ask a librarian [your question] and I say slightly rudely, "Oh, thaaaaank you".

Did some more cruising but no more approaches for a while.

I met JGIRLEnglishstudent from 8 to 10.

Ok, well it turns out that she was not so pissed off afterall. I met her today and got much more kino going, but failed to get a kiss out of her. I had a great chance--

She told me about this japanese drinking game where you, our case, flip a coin. one person is the king and the other is the slave. I won, so told her to hold my hand. I won again, and stalled! I should have said, "kiss me,"...... but Oh well,

At least this is going on now, and I will meet her at a pub next time.... so time to try some more tactics. She's a bit harder to get close to than some others I have known, but I figure there's no need to rush.

I end the date at 10 and take off with the idea to do more PUing. So i start again at 11 with the idea that I'll have an hour and half to do approaches.

I checked out the venues I used last time... one girl on the bus I used the cell phone opener but, again, as with the chinese girl there was a bit of tension and lack of ease from low approaches that day.

Finally, approached a twoset in a supermarket. they were smelling something so i asked how it smells. they were super responsive and i started chatting. turns out they are from Thailand!! ****, my first tai approaches. anyway, turns out one manages a restaurant and the other one cooks. they tell me where it is but it seems like a ploy to get business. I say, "Oh great for the information, sounds like a free dinner!" They leave.... ha ha! Anyway, there just did not seem to be any possibilities, or, perhaps I was missing them. Anyway, I decided, "what will be will be" and headed back.
With my LTR(?) she called me today. This might be posted elsewhere but, to say the least it's a bit of a confusing situation and I dont know if i shold end it, not, etc... but times moving and i need to make a choice. anyway she called and asked if i wanted to see a movie. i turned her down and she was a bit pissed off. I was a little defensive because, perhaps there is a bit of fear in me -- what If I lose her entirely, how will my confidence be? How long will it take to improve, etc.

But, instead Im going to Taichi where I have a hunch I've got a chance with one of the chicks there.... I use dreams a lot to make decisions and had the notion that she would be a potential lay.... so we will see what happens tonight.

Also tonight Im supposed to go to a bar with my boss (call him Mr. Professional.) I did some research on some places that aren't going to totally bust my wallet to have a few pints, so we'll see what happens there. He can't be a wing since he's got a GF, but its a good learning experience because he's a prime example of an Alpha Male, and he works well with chicks.

In addition, there are the fireworks tonight. This is a great opportunity because tons of people are in one place at one time. The downside is that I have yet to improve (or even work on) approaching groups... oh well, here's my chance. Plus, this year I'm not going with my LTR, so that should help move things along (David shade-- i think it would be hard to convince her to do 3somes!!!)

Ok! More to come.........






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Date: Thursday, July 31, 2003 05:02 PM

Outing report: Fireworks

I went out after meditation and taichi to the fireworks. I knew this would be a good venue to practice group approaches and that I would have lots of chances.

(1) 2 Jgirls -- no response.
(2) another 2 set -- little response
(3) got @close in supermarket
(4) approached 3 set -- little response. Was a street PU so more difficult
(5) 2 set of whites -- good response. Thought of something great afterwards. :(
(6) India(n) girls-- interesting response : "You look tight" one told me. Ok, need to work on looking less tight.
(7) @close on a 2set on transit. Possibility here unknown.
(8) One chick-- had response but lots it.

Techniques: I like the idea of an abcdenary -- start with a letter of the alphabet and go from there. This keeps the convo going.

-Social proof: Approach chicks, whether I'm interested or not so other chicks see me with them. Related to maniac's 2000/12 post about a guy who is always seen entering or leaving a place with a chick. When I was talking to chick *(2) below I did notice the chicks checking us/me out.

-GM Style: This is hilarious. I used it on (8). I had started off saying, "where's the sushi," "I like to put yogourt on sushi." and started the convo from there. As we talked I said, "Oh, you should make me sushi after I sleep with you."
Next with (7). I said after I got the eMail, "Hey this is great I have your eMail address. Now we can have sex." They both laughed and I said I was kidding. Wonder if I'm using it right... but it's really a funny style.
Today thus far:

(9) Tried social proof with chick -- gave me confidence to approach #2
(10) Used abcdenary on girl on way into work. Worked well.






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Date: Friday, August 01, 2003 01:41 PM

Ok-- This message didn't save so I have to type it again.... what happened formhandle???

Affirmation: "I don't compare myself with others: I ask if I am better today than I was yesterday."

Met Miss Chan. Really cute. More on her has it develops.

(11) After meeting chick with picture. Great AI so I approach but it's a bus stop

(12) Another chick, easy opening. But its on a bus

COMMENTS: Buses/bus stops suck ****. But I'll use them to warm up.

(13) White chick. Crash and burn

(14) Another white chick. Crash and burn

COMMENTS: Negative energy towards whites. Plus they have ***** shields. Forget them but use them to warm up.

(15) 2-set of japanese. Open with a fake story about a fight. Cant keep energy.

COMMENTS: How to keep the energy going after an exciting opening. As maniac says, I will remember that chicks want adventure!! This happened with (8) above.

(16) Swiss group.

(17) Another group. 2 guys 2 girls. Eject they seem more interested in the guys

(18) Korean girl use PAIMAI. I love Paimai but another bus stop. ****.

(19) 2set. "What clus do you go to..." Listed a whole bunch. See too socialized. Screen them out.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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(20) Approach Chinese chick in mall. walking same direction as her.

(21) chick in fast foodline up. Comment: "Boy, it's a great special today, isn't it...etc"

[above] (3) : appointment to watch fireworks with her next time,
 
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(22) two set. Hey, nice shoes. Walking PU.

(23) 3set, "Dont worry Im not following you, just walking slow."

(24) Better: Wow you must feel cold with those shorts. -
Them: "Yea, its ok."
Me: Where are you from
Them: Seashelt
Me: Small town girls
<silence>
Them: do you know where x is?
Me: Its... somewhere over there.
Me: I can show you if you bring me up to your room........ Just kidding. (GM Style)
EJECT

COMMENT: Could have stuck around longer.

COMMENT: So far this night. Still have another hour. Didn't go to any bars as I checked them out and just groups sitting together. Clubs had a long line up and I didn't feel like waiting, and wanted to get warmed up at a bar first. Anyway, totally pumped from all my street PU attempts.
 

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COMMENTS: Great day for PU, Japanese AND chinese festivals on the same days. Tons of approaches.... though no numbers. Getting much better at street PU -- "Hey, do you know where x is" gag. Need to work on shifting states, I think TylerDurden is good at this. Can get the conversation going, but need to MOVE the chicks so they are emotional/great while with me-- then go for the close. Also need to work on overcoming barrier -- too socialized. If they smile a certain way that seems to hint at oversocialization I back out. I may post these approaches when time permits.
 

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thats alot of writting

Man you just wrote so much about what again? I t was so llong just from looking at it it made me tired can you summarize this whole log of yours...

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Tibron,

Not sure what you're asking.... is this not a good idea?

(26) # close on Indian. First time ever.

(27) Weird things with Japanese threesome. Chit chating, start with gag, "Are you from India! Oh Japan! Wow!." I go for @ close but she refuses. Then, as she's leaving reaches out and grabs my hand.... and holds it!? What is the chick logic here.

COMMENT: **** I see more and more momentum is everything... I did a **** load of other approaches, this is just after getting a slight warm up and not being afraid of rejection. Most chicks won't reject, or if they do simply NEXT them really fast.
 

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You're doin great man... but your c&f needs a little work. You've been tellin them good things like "now we can have sex" and all but.... NEVER say that you're just kidding. It makes you seem scared of what they'll think... and a DJ does not care what they think. So next time, if you say something like that just keep a smile on your face and let THEM try and figure out if you're serious or not.... chances are that they will respond with kino, more convo, openesss, or a kick in the balls. Scratch that last one. ;)
 

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What is C&F....? I'm trying to use GM style: Say something totally rude, then follow with just kidding before they respond. Sounds like you have something else in mind here. I'll try that too, great man.

(25) (should actually be about 22). @Close on 2set at bus-stop. Standing around and use TokyoPUA's favorite line, "Do you speak english?" This is after some chick came up and asked them the time. After my question they turn and resume to speak with me. This is consistent with TylerDurden's idea, "Let them try for rapport with you [as opposed to you forcing it]." One asks, "How do you answer, 'What time is it?'" I joke with her about her question to get them laughing. Again, this is learned from Maniac -- Get them laughing.

She says something really cute, "If the time is 0:24 (what it showed on her watch) do you say, 'zero twenty four?' This is so cute it's priceless! I joke again-- "You have to pay me for english lessons..... what will you pay?" I tell her. Anyway, this is a bus stop so there's a **** load of people there. Some AFC tries to but in and give a response but we're chatting so they ignore him-- he spoke really softly too. Then-- get this, a BUS DRIVER, stopping for another group of people actually tries to join the conversation. We were talking about Shibaya (place in Japan) and he mentions it. Then tries talking Japanese!

Anyway -- another Maniac reference -- I make a determined effort to keep the PU going even though this was a bit unexpected. We talk for a while longer and now remembering TylerDurden's suggestion to close in 4 minutes (or go for the same day lay), I try to move things along and get both their @.

Update on JGIRLTease. This chick is totally ****ed. She sent me an eMail essentially calling me a name. Said, "You're not only dangeorous but also !----$1.... some Japanese word. She's into mind games and I should have taken the advice of this group to drop it.


(26) Approach 3 set with random question. One (the hot one) breaks in with : do you know this guy? I respond. But if I sense even the slightest ***** shield I tend to eject, and I did. Probably won't in the future with more confidence.

[******]

(27) 2set. Walking around looking for the China festival I mentioned. See two girls and open them. Geez, I go into the abcendary immediately and this works great to get the convo going, but I think I'm relying on it too much. One girl is really unsocialized and the other seems overly socialized; I can tell by the way she smiles, just a little big, a little polished. I continue with them but in my mind I have already nexted them. Finally they mention heading off. Miss Tyler's suggestion to "Close under all circumstances." How do I avoid NEXTing because of oversocialization?????????

(28) Same gag to meet this older broad. We're talking. I get to the point where I'm willing to take her somewhere she's looking for-- that sounds interesting for her to go to. Showed interest before, but that kind of threw her off and so I EJECTED.
 
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COMMENTS: No approaches or field work yet today... I have come across the most amazing * on fastseduction.com/archives. This stuff will change your life, read it, get motivated and do it. You will no longer be "Master Don Juan's" Just for posting here.

ON PAIMAI: Opening interested HBs. * I'm remembering a *up a while back. I was praciticing PAIMAI and got a girl to show interest. She turned right towards me and just kind of hung there for a while. She was hot-- real hot. I was trying to get myself warmed up for the night, so I hadn't done any other approaches. I had * all to say so I said nothing and she closed down after that. * I even hung around a while after that......

What do I do? Approach even when I'm feeling like a turd/when it's going to be an obvious approach? For now, I say no.... I'll keep my ego in tact rather than putting it on the line for everyone to laugh at me......... I have already established some tried and true methods for approaching that are guaranteed openers (See the bus/language question post). On the other hand, I agree with Maniac that it's necessary to put yourself on the line and drive brave experiements.

Check out the archives, let me know what you think!! (Im reading Svengali, Maniac_High, Mystery, TylerDurden right now)
 

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Note on MissChan. Got eMail from her TELLING (?!) me that she's bringing her friend to meet next time. I have a feeling that this is bad news [not interested enough to fear losing me to her friend] but who knows.

(29) @ close on Jgirl in McDonalds. Some idiot tried to **** block me, a french old dude apparently studying Japanese. I need to figure out hot to handle this kind of thing, but my instinct was IGNORE IGNORE and I did. I lied about my age, "20" and she was so shocked, "really!! me too...."

After this kind of sucked though. I had an appointment (again, from an advertisement) and she didn't show. I waited for 1/2 an hour staring at these wacked out bums on the main drag. I need to figure out what to do for these "blind date" type meetings, should I try to get social proof (could have continued talking with her)?!

(30) "You must be cold" comment on two chicks. One was really interested (immediate reaction) while the other had a definate ***** shield so I ejected. I think Maniac would agree that that may call for a neg -- "You should keep the covered" (implied: ugly legs!!)

(31) "Where is....xx??" gag to girl on street. Then I say, "Are you from India" and keep that up. She was a bit offended but I try to do that so I don't come across with japanese fetish. Then I STOP and wait. I am learning this and trying something that TylerDurden suggests: Let THEM try to get RAPPORT with YOU. That is, you can approach and ****, but don't seem to interested, STOP and see what they do, let them come to you essentially.

(32) # close in mall. Fast food joint pickup. I go in and spot a chick studying. This is BRILLIANT because about a year or two ago I remember seeing these great looking chicks at this particular spot and I COULD NOT APPROACH and the whole time I was thinking ****!!! I couldn't even think while I was eating my food. About this one, I made sure to follow Maniac's advice:

-->SET THE APPOINTMENT AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING. This gets around all the bull**** calls, etc.

(33) Last night was hilarious. I did TylerDurden's KINO Approach. This consists essentially of approaching a chick in a supermarket and NOT SAYING ANYTHING. Instead, you grab something, hit her with it and just be playful... touching her. Last night I grabbed a balloon with a long stick and was hitting this chick with it as I walked through the market..... she was obviously surprised and kept looking over at me. Working on this, though.

-/-

I did it today as well in the mall. One chick was a bit annoyed though, "Your bag is sticking right in me!!!" Hit another one while I'm walking, and the one right behind her basically walks into me with a big smile and EC (apparently to avoid getting HIT! It's funny.

TYLERDURDEN'S BODY LANGUAGE SUGGESTION: Here's something CRAZY that I have been doing lately and it works wonders. While you are talking to a chick, or passing them, or see them from a distance start doing preening jestures. Lick your lips, run your hands through your hair.... They get turned on. One chick was sitting a bit far away and her BF/Husband was across from her (he was turned away from me, but she was facing me). She COULDN'T keep her eyes off me while and I did this. Now I do it whenever I'm walking and whenever I'm talking to a chick.
 
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Good post, if a little long. How about going into more detail on some of your successes and failures instead of just briefly reporting your different attempts? In other words, what you (and she) said/did.

OK, I figured out that @close is a number close, right? At first, I was thinking "ass close". (???)

What is PAIMAI?
 

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RESPONSE: PAIMAI "Pre Approach Invitation Male Approach Invitation." In essense this is to get a girl to give you a AI (Approach Invitation). @ close = eMail close. You're right it's long. Seems it can be summarised: Suave Dave is not getting laid. :(

(34) Girl sitting down, watching sunset. This was harder. She mentions, "Japanese tend to hold things back, not give away their real feelings." So, while she was smiling, etc... giving me good feedback I was thinking, "Is this her real feeling?" Forgot about Maniac's "Set the meeting THEN," and instead went for a # close after talking to her for a while (failed to get a chance of venue but then again I wasn't persistent). Got, "I don't have a phone." !? So instead went for the @ and got that.

[25] Saw her while sarging. A problem that needs to be addressed is when I meet a chick I've sarged; I get a bit ansy. I'd rather meet her, or she sees me with good social proof. But watching me (alone, and sarging) does not make me feel comfortable)

JGIRLTease: Has sent me two eMails. This time kind of demanding a response as to whether I will "Teach her english."

[29] Chick mentioned here viz. didn't show up actually went to another spot. So she didn't ditch me.

LTR: Still need to clear this up.

(35) Saw great chick at safeway and was so turned on I basically rushed over to her, then walked slowly. UNFORTUNATELY she was a bit startled. I commented (NO QUESTIONS), and she responded. But then she didn't respond. (TylerDurden's: Make them get rapport with you). This sucked, I wish I could have said something, but I just lost her waiting for her to say something else.

(36) Watching dancers at a beach, I comment: "Boy, those guys are so.................xxxx" Talk to her for a while; her friends are there. Then, she, being very polite turns and says, "My friends ...blah..bllah...... we are leaving now. It was nice talking to you." Didn't close.

(37) Meet chick for "language exchange." She's short, poor body. But face is cute, though has really short hair. Her personality is really vibrant (she's an aerobics instructor). We meet at a shop and sit down.

Things go OK, but I figured I might as well try some * with her. So we leave and walk over to another shop. I did some background, and it turns out she likes black dudes (though not as much as japanese guys.) So I get her talking about blacks, and she likes Denzel Washington. I try to get her to talk a lot about him. But she's quite silent, one of those "happy to not say anything types," YET she expects the man to be talkative. *.

Here's something I really want to work on, it's what TylerDurden suggests viz. C&F (****y and funny) (right, Hemilaya_Playa). Seems to be an attitude that just needs practice.
 
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So how do you get a girl to give you an approach invitation?
 

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I read somewhere you shouldn't be saying "just kidding". Just follow up with a huge grin. :D

That way they won't know if your kidding or not, but most likely. I wish I knew where I read about this, it had some good points.
 

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So how do you get a girl to give you an approach invitation?
PAIMAI-- I think you should read fastseduction.com, the concept hasn't been totally integrated into seduction theory........

On GM Style-- Really? I guess both work, I have used both.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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(38) Various different approaches today. Today I'm using Gunwitch's method (described partly in my last post). The next part of the method is to convey a sexual state to chicks. I did this by walking around and spotting a hottie. Then I just stick around and get worked up a bit. F* I even had a boner and I didn't know (it's ok in clubs, but outside clubs?) This got me in the mood and I made a comment, "This place is great." She responded but I DIDNT (again, TylerDurden suggests them getting rapport with YOU...... so I didn't try to push a convo).

LTR: Met with LTR(?) today and actually had fun. Was going to break UP WITH HER, but I had so much fun following TylerDurden's advice that I didn't. Essentially he suggests you take her on a kind of adventure. I did this last night in a bookstore. I go up to a HB11! and mention something about my nephew needs a book. She is really responsive but hear how I f* this up.

First, I get her to suggest a book. She starts LAUGHING and really giving off this major FUN loving attitude. I'm totally not used to this; being a philosophy/religious studies major I'm quite sober. But I realised this is what she was looking for. The first thing I did was (the picture was a dog) so I go "RUFF! RUFF!!" Then say, "Can you take the dog home with you?" and push the book towards her. We get up and start looking at other books. I take a book and and DROP IT on the floor. She's shocked and goes (the orderly Japanese) to pick it up. Then, I drop a bunch more on the floor, BOOOM! She's still clearing them up, but laughing. I grab something (forget what, of hers) and run away and she chaces me. Then I tell her "You did something bad, you dropped books on the floor. You need punishment." She barely understands, and then I say, "As punishment you need to kiss me on the cheek!" This is where I f* up and she kind of walked away.

Problem: I didn't follow Gunwitches method ("Make the hoe say no" as I could have stuck around a while longer.) Anyway, I spent about an hour 1/4 with my LTR(?) today doing crazy **** like that in various stores and on streets. I was basically panting by the time it was over.

Example: Go into a store and open something w/o paying.

If anyone has any cool gimmicks, that would be helpful.
 

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Fireworks Meet!

[3] I didn't fill in the details on this one-- from last week I met her in Safeway and fluffled with her. I was a bit ansy (moving/talking too fast), but got things going. Joked (she didnt know) about Fireworks, "What are all these people doing.... oh, fireworks? really?) @close.

Met her last night. She had sent me a weird message in japanese that I couldnt read, but I did manage to make out a time to meet etc, and so we met. AS SOON as I met her I started kino, holding hands, etc. We got to sitting down and escalated this. I didn't use any (hardly any) Maniac Plan (eg, topics of convo) and instead focused on C&F (joking around) with her.

I think this may be where things screwed up a bit. We spent much of the night together, walking around etc. But she ended up saying I was a "gentleboy, not a gentleman", presumably because I had taken the C&F way too far and basically didn't phase shift (eg, go from C&F to serious). I didn't snap out of it.

Turns out she is a massage therapist in Japan so that helped me get quite a bit of Kino. I applied GM style (Are you hungry? I like to eat too.... I like to eat that [pointing between her legs]...etc, I did that a lot. Screwed up on the kiss gag (screwed this up before). "I have a trick, I can kiss you without touching your lips........" but got rejected; hate doing that, would rather go for more of a coy kiss. Oh, did something well-- "I want to tell you a secret" (get close to her head), then WHAM, plan one on her cheek. She wasn't P'Od or anything, instead playfully hit me.

Ended with the newspaper gag. I had applied a bunch of ink (secretly) to my hand as we were watching the fireworks; did this so I could ask to go to her house to wash it off. But she was reluctant, and the ink didn't show up very well in a darklit street.

COMMENTS: What I did well --> Kino Kino Kino. GM style. A bit of C&F. What I didn't do well --> TOO C&F, needed to be more serious and show that I am a gentleman (not "gentleboy") More on this as it develops.
 
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Clubbing REPORT!

(A) Ok, here's my first club outting report.

Total Cost: $11 Canadian.
Total Approaches: 2

I go to this place downtown that I know is going to be full. After going through Maniac's affirmations (pickupguide.com) and listening to heavy techno (as he suggested), I make my way over to the club. Unfortunately some internet sites I had been hoping to check out were not running. I think sex-state arousal is important and so I tried checking out some pics. (see my post http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32159) Unfortunately the site was down.

I think the main problem was I just couldn't get aroused....... maybe I'm taking the wrong approach here, but I thought it would be easier to approach/ lead a chick if I already had a sexual feeling going. But I didn't. I tried everything, going to the dance floor -- accidently moving my hand on chicks asses, nothing worked!!

The next problem was the Alpha male challenge. I tried NOT to focus on the guys there that were 'having more fun', 'getting the chicks' and instead tried concentrating on the women. The one thing that I *did* do was make a comment: "You chicks are dressed well." -- "Thank you." I DIDN'T LEAN IN -- (Read TylerDurden's "Trying too hard to qualify - massively important" and this gave me GREAT guidelines as to what to do/not to do in the club. I made this mistake with a girl before. I don't know, I could be ***ing up bigtime in some places; maybe not..................... this sh** is just getting WAY more easier with more experience.

Comments welcome!
 

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Dave Meets Three Hotties!

(39) Ok, meet with three new chicks yesterday at a food shop. One is a HB10, another about HB5.5 and the other probably 6 (But she's playful, so I give her 7-8). I immediately try to turn my attention AWAY from the HB10 because I know that she's the one that usually gets attention. Whenever I tried to look at her she looked, but then moved her eyes away -- again, persumably a ***** shield as she's used to getting a lot of attention. The HB7 is so cute and I do some major GM/C&F with her. Here's some examples:

(The setup- Im sitting beside HB7, HB10 and 5.5 are across from us)

-I drop some gum and get her to pick it up. She resists, but does. As she goes to the floor I put my hand on her head and make an "aww!" gesture with my face [eg, she's giving me head]
-She feeds me a fry and I say, "Do you like to put long things in your mouth?"

Some C&F I do with the group/other chicks.
-One has a lego bracelet and takes it apart. I put one piece in my mouth.
-As I'm leaving I grab a box of gum they brought and pretend to walk away with it.

NEG
-Do you cook? "No." So I can't do language exchange with you. But you're pretty, so it's ok. (PUSH/PULL)

SHI*TEST:
-Failed this one. I say, my name means "Beloved." And HB10 says, "Oh, so that's what your parents WANTED" (i.e., but not what actually happened." I say, "Yea, and it's TRUE." Failed ****-test, too defensive.

What I did well: Gave lots of kino to HB7; she's here for a month and looks like she wants to have fun. Has BF though, so it's harder.

What I did poorly: Tried too hard to qualify. (see: TylerDurden's "Trying too hard to qualify." I was, and think I have been way too C&F without just being myself. If there is a pause I take the burden of making fun/having a good time. Just need to relax.
 

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Trying too Hard to Qualify and Confidence in Front of People

(39) I'm really making an effort not to "try too hard to qualify" and to be more outgoing/fearless. A HB10 Korean sees me at the subway and immediately walks right over (she could have gotton on another train) and sits right beside me -- Major AI. I'm sitting there with cramped legs (I'm 6'3) and have an opener: "This I'm really cramped here." If I said that it would be a COMMENT not a QUESTION (eg, not a SOI [show of interest]). But I didn't comment because there were people around. Then, after a minute or so I said, "This is really cramped, can I change places." She just laughed and I didn't respond. This is a major improvement from before, as I probably would have tried saying more....and more..... and thus lost any chance with her in the future. Need to work on improving confidence when people are around.

COMMENT: You guys who aren't approaching, or who fear that progress can't be made......... take my example! Look at my log of 39 approaches (in just over a month) and compare it to last month's results!

(http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31776)

Go out and try this sh*t, do my "easy way to get eMail addresses " mission as a started if you must !
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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