"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Strong men in popular culture

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I think everyone on this board will agree that men in America are portrayed as fools in our popular culture. The modern sitcom wife is strong and independent, while her husband is just some "dumb **** lucky to have found her." Commercials are even worse. I saw a pizza ad where the husband went nutz because he thought that the sale price was the real price but that the delivery guy got it wrong.

But my question is this: Where can I turn to find strong men archetypes? What books, magazines, TV shows, movies are out there, new or old, that portray men as strong leaders and not weak fools?

Let's make a list. I'll start with Atlas Shrugged (which I'm only halfway through), and The Godfather movies.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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turn off the tv.

Read up on some history.....see what the men ware like for millions of years.....before they started wearing pink shirts

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spider_007:
I would love to read up on the history of men. Now if only you would suggest some specific books like my original post asked for.

musclyjerk:
I don't watch TV much at all, but it's hard to get away from popular media all together. That is why I wanted suggestions about what is out there that shows men in a better light.
 

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All you need is to watch Conan the Barbarian.
If that movie doesn't flush out the afc in you, then I don't know what will.
Even the soundtrack will raise your testosterone and put hair on your balls.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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spider_007 said:
turn off the tv.

Read up on some history.....see what the men ware like for millions of years.....before they started wearing pink shirts

(look in my sig.)
Shít this is the truest line i've read in a long time. Pink fúcking shirts/ties everywhere.

It's ridiculous
 

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Man, it's tough to find examples of STRONG men in modern culture. It just isn't "in" right now.

I was watching "High Plains Drifter" on TV the other day and I was thinkin' "Ya, Clint Eastwood was a DJ in that movie." Alpha Male all the way. He screwed every woman in town, told everybody what to do and got revenge on everyone who screwed him over. Pretty much ANY western with Clint Eastwood is a MAN's movie.

Look to some of the Hollywood men of the past, like John Wayne, Burt Lancaster, Charles Bronson, Clark Gable, James Coburn, Robert Mitchum. Real men.

I know a lot of you younger guys probably don't even know who these guys are, but it beats who we got now. Leo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt? Gimme a break.


~~~~~2cirius~~~~
 

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Visit Spain or Italy.
 

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Meet some real ones.

There are still some authentic men out there. They are generally doing manly things... not acting in hollywood chick flicks or tv sitcomms.

Do something hardcore. Go rock climbing or surf some big waves. Go on some big hiking/camping trip. Get yourself on a boat at sea for a while. Become a vounteer fire fighter. Get into some tough martial art (not one where you stand in the spot punching the air but where you are getting punched and kicked). You'll find real men in these pursuits.

More importantly you will learn how to be one. Nothing lifts your game like having experienced some real masculine adventure.

Being a man can't be learned in books, on the net or on TV.
 

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soverign said:
Where can I turn to find strong men archetypes? What books, magazines, TV shows, movies are out there, new or old, that portray men as strong leaders and not weak fools?
Not in this country since WWII ended and feminism took over...

Real men are an endangered species now.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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2cirius said:
Man, it's tough to find examples of STRONG men in modern culture. It just isn't "in" right now.

I was watching "High Plains Drifter" on TV the other day and I was thinkin' "Ya, Clint Eastwood was a DJ in that movie." Alpha Male all the way. He screwed every woman in town, told everybody what to do and got revenge on everyone who screwed him over. Pretty much ANY western with Clint Eastwood is a MAN's movie.

Look to some of the Hollywood men of the past, like John Wayne, Burt Lancaster, Charles Bronson, Clark Gable, James Coburn, Robert Mitchum. Real men.

I know a lot of you younger guys probably don't even know who these guys are, but it beats who we got now. Leo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt? Gimme a break.


~~~~~2cirius~~~~
Think any of those guys would ever "Peacock"?

Hell no.

They didn't want to or need to, because they were real Men.
 

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the new james bond movie is pretty good.

daniel craig takes a beating to his nads and he still doesn't sellout.
 

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LOL, those guys are myths. They don't exist in real life.

You're not James Bond. If you get hit in the nards that hard, you'd pass out.
 

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i think we ALL know how to be real men...

we just choose to listen to our environment's call for weakness, as opposed to our inner nature's demand for strength.

I always think back to david carradine's speech about Superman in "Kill Bill 2"

Superman is actually Superman...that is his identity.

he takes on the role of clark kent to Fit In with the rest of the men and women of the world.

the neurotic, insecure Clark Kent...


Call me an idealist, but I think we're all like that....


we have an immense amount of strength inside, yet we tone it down for the slight fear of offending someone else...

what we need to do is celebrate our power as men...women can be feminists...but we can still be masculinists.

do you think real men spend every waking moment at a night club? discussing pick up tactics? dissecting a conversation with 30 others?


HELL NO.


Real men are out there fighting in iraq, fighting injustice, saving lives, and not giving a **** whether women like them or not, because their lives and accomplishments are more important to them.

Real men do not spend their weekends in a club, *****ing about the lack of women they get. Real men are furthering themselves and the world without complaint, and with a stoicism that has been absolutely trumped in popular culture.


**** Hollywood. **** Queer eye for the straight guy. **** manicures. **** all that.


Be a goddamned man...you know how...so stop asking questions and ****ing do it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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2cirius said:
Man, it's tough to find examples of STRONG men in modern culture. It just isn't "in" right now.

I was watching "High Plains Drifter" on TV the other day and I was thinkin' "Ya, Clint Eastwood was a DJ in that movie." Alpha Male all the way. He screwed every woman in town, told everybody what to do and got revenge on everyone who screwed him over. Pretty much ANY western with Clint Eastwood is a MAN's movie.

Look to some of the Hollywood men of the past, like John Wayne, Burt Lancaster, Charles Bronson, Clark Gable, James Coburn, Robert Mitchum. Real men.

I know a lot of you younger guys probably don't even know who these guys are, but it beats who we got now. Leo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt? Gimme a break.


~~~~~2cirius~~~~
Strong men are just made fun of now. Girls say "macho man" and sh*t like that. Yet they lose respect for us when we cry and talk about our feelings. So we really can't win. Damm'd if u do damm'd if u don't. Back in the day i think women knew how to treat men. I see my grandparents and my older aunt and uncle, sure she laughs at his stubborn old fashioned ways sometimes, but its different. overall she respects him and supports him in everything and always has his back. Women today feel like they can say whatver they want to us. They can be the biggest emotional train wrecks in the world, but god forbid we dont have our **** together once in a while they says "oh hes not a man" or somethin alongn those lines. I mean if ur always a whimp thats one thingm, but if u just have ur bad moments then so what everybody does. I think all married men under 50 are whipped and miserable cuz their women treat them like crap. My cousin was this really cool guy and he totally lost his personaltiy he's like a stepford husband now. She owns his A$$. Its a shame.

Ok enuff ranting.
 

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and yet when I tell guys to eat red meat and eggs (raw preferably) and get under the bar or pull some deads I get ridiculed.. "ewww! saturated fat and cholesterol!" or "I don't want to be a bodybuilder"..

stay small and girly with test levels of a eunuch, I don't care. ;)
 

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test levels of an imp, a pigmy, a chiwawa!
 
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