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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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The North Dragon

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I met this girl through one of my friends and managed to get her number. we've been texting most days for the past week and been meeting a couple times aswell.

here's the thing... she hints for me to either see her on her break at work which i have done twice but whenever she asks me or i ask her at night to hang out shes always got some1 else with her like a friend or whatever? one night we had a good time so i text her asking to arrange something for tomorrow night just us 2. she replied ' my ex has just text me and he's comin round to sort a few things out bla bla' . she lives on her own so wether its bils or the relationship itself i dont know? i replied with ' oh ok thats fine no worries' . she then tried to draw me in by replying with ' aww i am so confused'.

its been a couple days since he was ment to come round and weve meet a couple more times. she knows i like her and i think she likes me but she told me she just wants to get things sorted out with him first? i dont know who finished with who but am trying not to get involed or listen to her stories.

ive tried going cold n go NC but she stills texts me first and quite a few times. she will flirt etc, and last night she asked me round for drinks and then head uptown. so i brought some friends then we had a good night n went up town then ended up stayin at hers but again her friend was there so 3 of us slept in the same bed so nothing happened. we still havent kissed or anything? she said last night ' u can come round n stay but no kissing yet or sex' haha jokingly.

i just dont get why shes even texting/meeting me just now? certainly dont wana get friend zoned either. so what should i do now then? i wouldnt mind makin this work as shes a really nice girl and gorgeous. she keeps tellin me she likes me to and wouldnt meet me if she didnt? also heard shes been saying to my friends am really good looking and stuff.

is it possible shes still got feelings for the ex and hes furking her around n pullin th strings? what should i do now?

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Bro, her ex is coming by to pound the sh!t out of her while you sit there and be her texting buddy. Maybe you could ask her to text a play by play to you...don't want to be friendzoned??? Dude, you are already there, wake up! Probably because you didn't try anything when you were around her.

Remember something: Women will forgive you for acting like a man and going for it a lot sooner than they will forgive you for being a scared little boy.

The only thing she isn't confused about is you. Enjoy the friendzone/text buddy status while other dudes are pounding her senseless...

Find someone else and don't make the same mistake again...
 

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First things have ... have you made a move to kiss her ?! If not then you sir are pretty much going to be friendzoned if your not already. You guys text every day, meet up, she knows she has you and your no longer a challenge to her anymore ..... sad but true . Plus her ex is still in the picture, thats a huge red flag id leave her because she still feels something for him. Also just because she texts you while your attempting to NC doesnt mean you have to respond... your missing the point of NC. NO CONTACT.

Anyway, its quite possible she wants you as an orbiter but she could already see you as a friend. The way I would play it is I would go do my own thing and NC her (DONT ANSWER HER DAMN IT ) and see how much she realy misses you. Then after that , in a week or two, call her up ... go on a date, MAKE A MOVE (IMPORTANT ) and if she turns away from a kiss you have your answer on what to do .. hopefully its obvious.

Good luck .

EDIT - yeah marmel is right, damn you for posting a second before me lol
 

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guess i have just been a dumba** n listened to what she said. damn it ! at the started i was goin to make a move but didnt then i guess it just never happened!
 

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The North Dragon said:
guess i have just been a dumba** n listened to what she said. damn it ! at the started i was goin to make a move but didnt then i guess it just never happened!

Yes yes yes you reocgnized your mistake . Never trust a woman words trust her ACTIONS! Embed that in your brain.
 

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so r u saying i should ignore her calls/texts completely or just reply when its going to be benefit me? coz ignoring her completely makes it seem like i am butt hurt over her
 

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The North Dragon said:
one night we had a good time so i text her asking to arrange something for tomorrow night just us 2. she replied ' my ex has just text me and he's comin round to sort a few things out bla bla' . she lives on her own so wether its bils or the relationship itself i dont know? i replied with ' oh ok thats fine no worries' . she then tried to draw me in by replying with ' aww i am so confused'.
Mate, she was testing you. She wanted to know how committed you were with your plan, and obviously you weren't that committed, so now her ex banged her instead of you. This was actually the moment you missed.


her friend was there so 3 of us slept in the same bed so nothing happened. we still havent kissed or anything? she said last night ' u can come round n stay but no kissing yet or sex' haha jokingly.

i just dont get why shes even texting/meeting me just now? certainly dont wana get friend zoned either.
You were already friendzoned here.
 

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sharkbeat said:
Mate, she was testing you. She wanted to know how committed you were with your plan, and obviously you weren't that committed, so now her ex banged her instead of you. This was actually the moment you missed.
what should he have done though?
 

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The only thing you could've done to show your committed was to counter offer with a new date. That shows your committed ness. But who cares she's your friend now .
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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Tell her to tell her ex to cancel his plan. Come up with something funny to lighten up the mood. She brought up her ex to see how you respond, and the only correct way to respond isn't to get fazed and have a witty comeback -- even though your blood is probably boiling at this time.
It depends on your rapport with her. Tell her to tell him that her dog was having diarrhea tomorrow so he shouldn't come. Something comical but also gets the point across.
 
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