"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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stripper invited me out to see her ... anyone who has experience GET IN HERE

muscleman

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she's offering all these discounts and what not for nye. never landed a stripper, never been to a strip club, honestly I'm not sure I even want to go. dunno if that's the way those girls are though.

RT I know you landed some strippers back in the day, care to comment? how'd you do it?

is this interest or her just tryin to get money?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I would rather take a girl to a movie and pay 7.50 then go watch a ho strip and give her free money. I f*cked this chick that was a stripper. Later she told me i should come watch her work cause shes good at what she does. Hang out with her first, im sure you could get some sex. Dont go watch her slut it out.
 

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You can’t always go by what you think the stereotypical stripper is like. I’ve dated a few women who were or had been strippers – one of whom went out of her way to take me around, to meet a lot of other strippers, and to see first hand what does and doesn’t happen in strip clubs.

Some strippers are the stereotypical ditzy hos but most aren’t. Many aren’t any more slvtty than any other women. For most it is just an easy way to make money. It is just a show, an act.

I’m just saying judge the girl based on her merits and not on the general perception of strippers in general.
 

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They want your money most of the time. Or you can PIMP her! Get to know her a little bit and create attraction. Tell your friends you're "dating" a stripper and they will pay you for her lap dances and what not. Get that money playa! She works for you and helps you out. Just fvck her a few times and have a QUALITY girl as your main b!tch. Keep the stripper on the side, make ur money, keep her interested, invest in another girl who is better and you're gold.
 

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An old man once told me "once your girl sees you as a source for money, she will always see you ass a source for money."
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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just wanted to point out to the dude above me that a lot of strippers make bank

where else can you work for only a few hours a day, 20 bucks/5 mins, 2 bills for 30 min private dances and you don't even need a high school diploma

inside the club they eye your wallet because they're working. doesn't mean they're gold-diggers outside the club
 

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I think it flat out destroys your game if you pay them. I think it DLV, and makes your value lower than hers. Most girls like to seperate thier job from thier regular life. And half of the time the girls are terrified of the men viewing them, they think that there is atleast one killer out there (which is normally true, killers stalkers and social misfits are always in the strip clubs). So when you approach after you pay the girl, or after her show its kinda like :nervous: for her she's thinking am I getting a another stalker today. And plus if you don't think girls are terrified of the jons viewing why do you think they always ask the bouncers to walk them out to thier cars. Also usually girls are emberrased of being a stripper, so in their real life they don't want people to know that they stripped so they don't associate with the people at the clubs. Plus they think that you, think that they act like a stripper in real life so they don't want you around then either. SO basically heres the cons to the situation of picking up a stripper

cons:
1.they think you think they are a slut, so when your around outside thier job all of the slutty emotion comes up.
2. if you pay them they see you as someone they can have you whenever they want (and all the playing hard to get is out the door), or they see you as a money souce for the rest of your life cuz they feel like they can minipulate money from you.
3. THey find you creepy and lonely
4. your not even aloud to touch them lol

But here are the ways to turn that around is:

Going with a girl (it shows you have options and preselection)
Connecting with her while she is up there (since you know her) winking your eye and smiling to send her comfort. (let her know you are comfortable around naked women, and that you are not affected by where you are and that she is still just a girl thats like your younger friend)
Not giving her your full attention, talk to the girl that you brought to create jealousy.
After her dance when she goes back into the backroom to get dressed move out to the bar and talk with your friend the girl will almost certainly come up to you from behind and say "hi" thats when you give her a big "HELLO" then hug her and kiss her on the cheek (show her alot of energy and excitement) then tell her your about to go hit the town in a minute, and that she was amazing. up there. Then invite to a party that you are throwing. And she is in the palm of your hands bro
 

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^--- have you actually PU'd a stripper before?
 

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And plus not paying is much more powerful than you think it is. You can imagine how it feels up there when she doesn't get your money. Like her job is to seek your approval and the money comes if you approve of her, so by not giving her your money its like you don't approve and she kinda wonders why? And if your with a girl it answers that question... (you have options). So your not her client that she's planning on milking for every single you have, your an alpha guy thats just there to have a good time. p.s. thats the start that you need when it comes to women.

And yes to guy above me
 

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Thanks for the feedback fellas. I didn't this thread to discuss "quality", which is a dubious term at best. I just merely wanted some opinions about the particular situation and whether it was really interest or just an invitation to get my money.

Doesn't really matter at this point because I politely declined but told her if she wanted to hang out sometime when she wasn't working I'd be up for it. I honestly don't care if she gets back to me or not, this was just another in a line of options.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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trojanman88 said:
cons:
1.they think you think they are a slut, so when your around outside thier job all of the slutty emotion comes up.
2. if you pay them they see you as someone they can have you whenever they want (and all the playing hard to get is out the door), or they see you as a money souce for the rest of your life cuz they feel like they can minipulate money from you.
3. THey find you creepy and lonely
4. your not even aloud to touch them lol
Are you sure that you know what you’re talking about?

1. I’ve dated a few strippers and the issue of her being a slut never came up except in joking. None of them were really sluts, I never thought of them as sluts, and they never thought that I thought of them as sluts.
2. If you are dating a stripper she doesn’t see you as a source of income any more than any other woman would. She certainly wouldn’t think that she could have you whenever she wanted. If you were like that she probably would have never hooked up with you in the first place.
3. If they want to date you, they aren’t thinking of you as creepy or lonely.
4. I’ve always been able to touch the girls. The prohibition against touching only applies when they are performing.
 

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sounds like a set up

make sure you meet at a public place with close friends looking around
 

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potato said:
Are you sure that you know what you’re talking about?

1. I’ve dated a few strippers and the issue of her being a slut never came up except in joking. None of them were really sluts, I never thought of them as sluts, and they never thought that I thought of them as sluts.
2. If you are dating a stripper she doesn’t see you as a source of income any more than any other woman would. She certainly wouldn’t think that she could have you whenever she wanted. If you were like that she probably would have never hooked up with you in the first place.
3. If they want to date you, they aren’t thinking of you as creepy or lonely.
4. I’ve always been able to touch the girls. The prohibition against touching only applies when they are performing.
Naw you got me wrong cuz I made the mistake of going in and out of specifically talking to the op and generally guys trying to pick up strippers.
 

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maybe your right...because iv'e picked up one stripper before so maybe youve dated more and have lots more experience . I was talking specifically using my one pick up...so yeah
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I’m just saying judge the girl based on her merits and not on the general perception of strippers in general.
I'm sorry, did potato actually say something constructive?

Whoa guys, if potato actually said something helpful and not outrageously arrogant, what's next? Flying pigs?
 
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