"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Strip clubs / brothels / massge parlours increases confidence?

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Originally posted by Evil-Rom
woah whats up your ass today.

I cant believe this is what the sosuave forums have turned to.

HAY GUYS GOING TO STRIP CLUBS MAKE ME FEEL SO ALPHA WHEN HB12'S APPROACH ME OMG.

NO OF COURSE THEY DONT WANT MONEY OR IT'S THEIR JOB TO TALK TO ME.
Your exactly right, i receive alot of ec from hotbabes but don't have the confidence to approach.

First time i went, i've got more confident and it changed my mind frame THAT i have to myself back in the game. :) Couldn't believe these hb's were all looking at just ME! And the best thing is they make you feel confident and positive, talking positively to you.



The other guy's are probably just bitter.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Strip clubs, brothels, massage parlors, Hooters, etc, like porn, are actually too easy. You'll feel confident, but when you try a woman in the real world, you'll get knocked back into the loser gutter so quickly.

If you want confidence, bust your ass in the real world. Hit on the busy, disillusioned, ill-tempered women we all love to hate (99% of the female population) until you're laying them 2 or 3 per week.
 

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Don't understand why there's so many hate posters.

Everyone has their different ways on how to feel and get confident.

If you have nothing worthwhile to post, dont post at all.
 

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Are you trying to say it's not worthwhile to PAY PEOPLE AT THEIR JOB?
 

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Originally posted by AverageFC
That's really sh|tty. They hate people like you. Theyre there to make fukkng money, thats theyre fukking job, how they pay for sh|t.

I hate people like you too. I've worked as a waiter, and youre one of those fukkers who would sit at a table and just order water. Or order a really big meal and not tip.
Wrong - when I go out to eat, drink or whatever, I always tip well, unless the service is atrocious.

I'm not some chisler who goes to a club/bar/restaraunt and drinks water all night.

When I went to the strip clubs, I did not receive any type of extra services, such as a lap dance, nor did I sit up front and watch the live show(s)

I paid a cover charge of anywhere from $10.00 to $20.00 dollars and stayed for half an hour.
An hour at most.

You still think that's being cheap?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by kkboy85
How old are you?
I'm in my mid-40's now, but I did the strip club thing when I was in my 20's
 

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Originally posted by AverageFC
Are you trying to say it's not worthwhile to PAY PEOPLE AT THEIR JOB?
For strippers, "their job" is selling themselves to you. If you don't buy, you don't pay.

(As for waiters, paying the menu price was considered fulfulling my legal contractual obligation the last time I checked; tips are a bonus, which I'll decide on. Just my view; everyone else is freem to form their own.)

Personally, I think Derek's idea of boosting confidence at strip clubs is an excellent idea. Yeah, it's a "crutch", so what? So are the things they give you when you break your leg -- pretty useful, aren't they? I am in favor of doing whatever it takes to help yourself improve. I'm not suggesting it be one's only method of improvement (hardly!), but if it helps, what's the problem?
 

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Originally posted by newplaya
Your exactly right, i receive alot of ec from hotbabes but don't have the confidence to approach.

First time i went, i've got more confident and it changed my mind frame THAT i have to myself back in the game. :) Couldn't believe these hb's were all looking at just ME! And the best thing is they make you feel confident and positive, talking positively to you.



The other guy's are probably just bitter.
wait what

im not on your side
 

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porn is for AFCs
 

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Hmm,..a topic near and dear to my heart. Does visiting a strip club, brothel, etc. increase confidence? I'd say yes and no. I've fvcked strippers before - there's no such thing as a date witha stripper - and I came to understand that strippers aren't selling themselves (or degrading themselves as some women would have you believe), they're selling you attention and making money from the attention you give them back. I've argued the attention whor line for a while, but in short all women are to some degree dependent on attention. Strippers have simply turned this need into a profession. The probelm with deriving your own sense of self-confidence from this is that, while it works well in the confines of a strip club where the girls are competing for your attention in order to profit, you require a whole new set of rules outside the strip club. Competition inside the club is overt, outside it's covert. Rarely will a half (or fully) naked woman whom you've never met plop herself down in your lap at a nightclub or the mall and ask you how your day was. Strippers will boost youur confidence, yes, but it's too easy and not conducive to learning how to realte to 'real' women.

The same applies to pros. You can go fishing in a barrell full of fish and catch your limit in 5 minutes or buy a fish at the market and think you're a great fisherman, but go out to the river at the wrong time of day and use the wrong bait with the wrong line and a bad reel and dull hooks and you'll still get skunked. Learn how to fish at the river boys.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Here's my take on these clubs:

You go not to be horny around strippers or to get "confidence". Paying sluts to strip would decrease confidence if anything...because that the end of the day you realize you've just spent your weeks paycheck on seeing naked women, because you can't do it on your own for free. Depressing.

You go to strip bars with your friends to have a good laugh and a few drinks. The stripping is secondary. It's not sexual.
 

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Some guys are simply completely intimidated by beautiful women. To the extent that strip clubs help alleviate these feelings of intimidation, they are useful. If this applies to you [reader], you'll certainly know it. Simple as that. No one ever said you're going to become a DJ just by hanging out at your local strip joing.
 
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