"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Strip club rejection...

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Me and a friend ended up going to this strip club tonight. Strip clubs arent my thing-i pretty much sat there looking bored. Well this hb8-9 was sitting behind me with 2 friends. She pulled out a cigarette and tapped me on my arm and asked if i had a lighter. i didnt though i had some matches on my table so i lit it for her. she grabbed my hand to light her cig. But thats where i pussied out. i didnt take it anywhere.
Anyways i finally found my balls towards the end of the night and i sat beside her and introduced myself. She told me her name and we shook hands. I couldnt hear a thing she said though. that and she looked tired/worn out and was texting on her phone. I was trying to talk to her but she couldnt hear me at all. She pretty much just sat there not showing interest. Dammit
So what do you guys think happened? Is it most likely i just caught her at a bad time- i mean eariler she seemed to be having a good time though when i got to her she looked like she was really tired.
Though things didnt go as planned im just glad i finally made my move. I guess the rejection wasnt as bad as i thought itd be-i know id feel worst if i hadnt made my move at all.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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She saw you weren't a good candidate to buy her services, so she moved on to a better prospect. Nothing personal; remember, it is a business for them. They are not there to meet guys; they are there to milk guys.
 

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WHat do you mean? She wasnt a stripper-just a regular girl who was there with 2 of her girlfriends.
 

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you shouldve been trying watch the hangtime of the monkey
 

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She was possibly a lesbian, and even if she wasn't, you had very little chance of doing anything with her because conversations are impossible in those ridiculous environments. I don't know why in the hell places feel the need to blast their music so loud these days.

i was at a bar/club saturday night with some friends (male and two females), but I didn't even bother trying to talk to any of the girls there because I knew it would be next to impossible to communicate
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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So should I take it as a rejection?
umm, you obviously have the heart of a chump. You should re-read the DJ Bible immediately.

rejection is a good thing. yes, take it as a rejection

I was tutoring these three black kids at a ghetto middle school, and they always liked to get off track and talk about girls and stuff. One of the kids (age 14 i think) was an amazingly advanced player for his age. Well, I guess that's probably expected in ghetto areas. Anyway, he was always trying to inquire about my level of experience with ladies, and when I implied to him that I was not as much of a geeky n00b as he assumed, he acted surprised. He asked, "Oh yeah, how many times have you been rejected?"

You had to be there to understand his meaning, but didn't ask the question as an insult. He was inquiring about how many rejections I'd had because any true ladies' man will have a ton of rejections, and he wanted to know how many attempts I'd made. Not enough, probably.
 
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LOL you lost the sit when you waited. YOU can't wait or it seems planned and her gaurd goes up. SO you have to force yourself to game rather you feel like it or not as soon as you meet up...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Owned!!!!!!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I disagree with the other guys. I don't think initial hesitation to approach in an uncomfortable environment is that big of a turn-off. The important thing is that you eventually did the courageous thing and tried to talk to her. The odds weren't in your favor in such an awkward setting so you did not succeed.

big deal. I'd say a more important failure is your FAILURE to read the DJ Bible.

I guess the rejection wasnt as bad as i thought itd be-i know id feel worst if i hadnt made my move at all.
Glad that you're learning at least a little bit. Under the natural order of things, a man approaches a woman. If you were a door-to-door salesman or a telemarketer, would you get embarrassed by the fact that lots of potential "customers" wouldn't buy any of your goods? I'd imagine that's the case for most of them, and it's the case for most successful men, too. Read the damn Bible.


nando said:
calm down guys, help the guy
Bah, Pook is the only one who can help this guy
 

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Wow...
Thats all I can say after reading these responses.
WHats the fvcking point of this site if ppl cant help one another out?? I seriously think some of you guys get off on making ppl feel like sh!t.
Well thanks, now I know not to bother with this site as its of no help at all, especially when theres nothing but azzholes on here bashing everyone. If you've got time to post some stupid, irrelavant comment that obviously has no intention to help then you can't be doing to well yourself with girls seeing how you even have the time to be wasting posting stupid comments on here. Maybe this is why all the good ppl that used to frequent the board have disappeared.
-Peace
 

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amnbyrd said:
WHat do you mean? She wasnt a stripper-just a regular girl who was there with 2 of her girlfriends.
And one of those girlfriends is you! You shook her hand and failed to take it further!

Be a man from the get-go! Have your balls from the get-go!
 

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Opportunity comes once in a lifetime, you have to make a decision before to capitalize on situations like that.
 

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Maybe this is why all the good ppl that used to frequent the board have disappeared.
no, the good people disappeared because they got tired of repeating themselves to n00bs like you who were too lazy to read the DJ Bible
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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