"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Straight to the POINT ADVICE FOR ALL AFC'S!!

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take a chance and grow some balls. Let the guard down and quit the games. You will be amazed how many hot, sweet, fun girls you will meet

if you wanna just play games you will find many girls of the same ilk
Ryan, the idea is to grow balls so that we can optimally and effectively deal with women.

As a man, an educated man in the way of women, you never let your guard drop.
You never stp becoming aware of games, and playing them when you need to.
No guy on here just wants to "play games'. But they have to learn the game, just to compete, and to have a chance with women.
Because that is the way it goes.

Ryan, I know you mean well, And I defnitely know you're not aiming this statement at me, but II think that there is a little delsuion in there. You're a good guy with a good heart.
You don't want to play games, you want women to be direct and logical.

So do I, so do we all.

But if that was the norm, this site and seduction community would have never been needed or existed.

I don't knowyour dating experienc, but I have to say that either you live in an area with high quality women a plenty, and it's a common occurence and common experience foryou..or...

Dude, are you sure you're dating lots of women out there?

I mean really.
You sure you've been with a lot of women?
I mean relationships and sexing them???

Dude, letting your guard down is NOT about not having balls, it's abou tbeing snmart, man.
It's about understadnig that you can only give up so much, and show so much. You can't give her the entire thing.
She never will, why shoudl you?

Anyway, I'm tired.
I think I'm losing a little bit of direction here, soI'm going to stop now.


Listenm Ryan, Thins about htis stuff.
oure a good guy, and you want good women by your side. So do we.

But if you're not "protecting that heart", and droppingyour guard, you may find yourself with you heart chopped up more often.

I'm not pointing fingers, or lecturing you, bud.

I'm here to help.

If I see a perspective that is iffy, I'll call on it.
Why?

I don't wnat to see good guys get hurt, For dumb things, things they should have covered.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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wow i think i started this thread for Ryan69, but i think Interceptor has just finished it lol
 

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Interceptor if I'm ever in Florida I'm buying you a pitcher of your favorite brew.
 
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Lay the f-ck off Ryan. He is right.

I have had the best relationships of my life while being an AFC. The longest relationships. Beautiful girls talking about marriage to me. Sh!t like that.

I have f-cked girls being a player. And that's that.

I think the real tool here is Tough Love. Give it up man, you are clueless.
 

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get your AFC shyt outta here My Name is Nobody

wtf are u doing advocating AFC behavior you BYTCH!!!!

did u ****ing read my thread and the whole point of it???

wake the FCUK UP homo!!!!!!!!!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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My Name is Nobody said:
I have had the best relationships of my life while being an AFC.

can somebody please literally shoot this kid for saying this right here right now..........please!!!!!
 
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ToughLove said:
can somebody please literally shoot this kid for saying this right here right now..........please!!!!!

Me being AFC = YOU being a PIMP.

Nuff said.

I suppose you are such a player, that is why you are on SOSUAVE at 3 in the morning?
 

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I'm with ToughLove and Interceptor on this one. Listen to them.

These other guys should get the F outta this thread. Jesus Christ some guys got no idea.

The reason that the older girls are playing less games and claim to "Hate games" is because DUH! they want babies and they want marriage and they want it NOW NOW NOW so they stop the games. but don't think for a second they won't start up again fukking ASAP. Women always have a motive man. They always got a reason for doing what they are doing at the time. If a lady, getting older, realises she wants kids and a familt they will shame any man using games because it is against their interests (shacking up) and it p!sses them off. but when they were younger, heck, they love games. you might get a relationship being an AFC (and ultimately I think that when chicks get older they wish for that) but it is only because they have full control and power over you. heh...fukk that.

your best bet is to be the man and the prize and she will work to win your affections- which is how it should be.

Girls just aren't something you fvck and be done with
Why not? I'm not saying i do this, but why not just F and be done with them? I can't see why not.

You should treat all people with respect
Yes i agree. But only if you are getting respected in return. Otherwise its 'game on'.
 

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life is a game of dominance and submission. winners and losers.. be good at the game and you will enjoy life. be ****ty and life sucks. you can learn alot about life from chess or ping pong or basketball. you look to those who are good at the game and do what they do. focus. practice. adapt. etc. in life always keep your head in the game becuase unlike in chess or ballin, the game never stops.

girls play games becuase they want to find out if you are the real deal. if you are a baller. just like when kids wrestle on the playground to see who is stronger. girls engage in games with dudes to see if they are a worthy sperm donor. they also use games to boost their self esteem and get you to do **** for them. everyone is gaming all the time. some are good some are not. some games are more enjoyable than others.
 

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But if you're not "protecting that heart", and droppingyour guard, you may find yourself with you heart chopped up more often.

So wrong IMO

Why are you guys so afraid of getting hurt ? Have you never had a long, healthy relationship with a great girl ?

The good far out weigh the bad. Sometimes along the way you meet the bad. It happens in life

Take a chance.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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life is a game of dominance and submission. winners and losers.. be good at the game and you will enjoy life. be ****ty and life sucks. you can learn alot about life from chess or ping pong or basketball. you look to those who are good at the game and do what they do. focus. practice. adapt. etc. in life always keep your head in the game becuase unlike in chess or ballin, the game never stops.

girls play games becuase they want to find out if you are the real deal. if you are a baller. just like when kids wrestle on the playground to see who is stronger. girls engage in games with dudes to see if they are a worthy sperm donor. they also use games to boost their self esteem and get you to do **** for them. everyone is gaming all the time. some are good some are not. some games are more enjoyable than others

Life is a GAME ? My god the advice sometimes here is so bad. A game is a game. Life is not a game. Life can end for anybody at any second. It doesn't go on and on.

girls play games becuase they want to find out if you are the real deal. if you are a baller.

44 year old man saying baller ? LOL. MATURE woman don't want BALLERS. They want handsome, intelligent MEN who they can connect with on a different level from other guys. You won't find these girls fvcked up on E at some dance club at 2am by the way LOL. Nothing wrong with those girls if you like DRAMA and headaches or maybe just a cheap fvck

I really dont get where some of you guys are coming from
 

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Ryan69 said:
it is a game cuz girls make it a game

mature girls don't make it a game. If you don't want drama and games find more intelligent, mature ladies

I will agree it's tough avoiding games with teenaged girls. I think most people responding other than myself are high-school aged posters
Are you serious? You live in a fantasy world my friend. I am 39 years old and I know women very well now. When they stop playing games with men is when you bury them.

Secondly the average age on this board is 19 or 20. Are you suggesting all of these young men only date mature women? Cougars?

Wake up and go back to sleep bud.
 
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